Believe me, Kat - I am on the look out for killer rabbits.
Considering the amount of stress, crapola, red tape and politics
I go through on a daily basis (not to mention having to code like a
bandit) - this is somewhere down in the noise as far as the amount of
stress generated. I'm very glad to do it - I just hope we can get some
answers and that it is helpful.
elizabeth
In a message dated 10/26/2006 4:50:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Elizabeth,
It almost sounds like a Monty Python skit in the
making...
I applaud you for your perseverance and your patience -
I
probably would have had a meltdown by now!!
Please keep on
keeping-on, you're doing a wonderful thing
for all of us!
Kat (Mew
Jersey)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Date: Thu, 26
Oct 2006 16:54:02 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To:
[email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
>
> I think my ear is purple
from being on hold and I am quite dizzy from the "run-around".
>
>
That being said, I am still awaiting calls from the CEO of Carrington Labs and
from the FDA. I contacted the USDA and talked to the main office,
USDA-Veterinary Services, USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Investigative
Services), USDA-Animal Care, and finally a member of the senior staff at
USDA-APHIS, Dr. Davis. Dr. Davis was very helpful and he has worked in
this office for many years. He tells me that injectible Acemannan falls
outside the jurisdiction of the USDA. They handle vaccines - but no
other veterinary medicines. He checked his resources and said that this
drug was approved by the FDA and that it would fall under their
jurisdiction.
>
> I asked Dr. Davis if the USDA removed products
from commerce while conducting audits. He told me that he has never
heard of that happening in all his years working for the USDA.
>
>
After my conversation with Dr. Davis, I called Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary
Products Laboratories and told her what I had learned from the USDA. I
asked her if they had documentation that informed them of the audit and if she
could check that for me and verify the initiator of the audit. She told
me that this information was passed down to them from Carrington Labs. I
asked Dr. Nicholson if she thought it would be helpful for me to write my
congressman. She told me that a lot of people were doing that and it
could only help.
>
> Meanwhile, we wait to talk to the FDA and
Carrington Labs (or rather, the appropriate office for redirection of
blame).
>
> Stay tuned for another episode in the continuing
saga...
> Elizabeth
>
> *Save the earth. It's the only
planet with chocolate.*
>
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To:
[email protected]
> Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 1:09 PM
>
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
>
>
> Dr. Nicholson at
Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago. The organization
responsible for this audit is the USDA. She gave me some contact numbers
there and I am going to do my very best to be professional when I express to
the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats whose lives may have
depended on this product while they took their time doing their audit.
Dr. Nicholson told me this one man who is in charge of the veterinary division
may not even know about this but I assured her that he would after I spoke to
him.
>
> The mixture used in the injectible Acemannan (pronounced
like it sounds - "Ace manan") is proprietary and so there is no generic and
they have people from over seas calling everyday trying to get the
product. Right now, it simply isn't available. Dr. Nicholson did
not know why Acemannan Hydrogel is not subjected to the audit when it contains
the same raw ingredients. There is another lab right now that has an
audit going on but the product being audited is not currently withheld from
commerce. The USDA has some questions to answer.
>
>
Meanwhile, I asked Dr. Nicholson if there was a human equivalent to
Acemannan. She told me that Manapol Plus (by Carrington Labs) is used
for people. It is taken orally rather than as an injection. She
was not sure if this product had been studied for use in cats but she thought
it may have been.
>
> I asked her if the USDA had given any
indication of how long this audit would last - and she told me that the last
she heard, they hoped to be through in November.
>
> What I want
to know is what gives the USDA the right to remove a proprietary product from
the market that has been proven to save cat's lives? Even if lives
weren't at stake - what gives them the right to shut down this company's
bottom line? What if this were the only product they made? This
goes against everything our system stands for and I refuse to sit passively
while this happens. I'm wondering if I need to write my
congressman.
>
>
> Kiss the kitties for me,
>
elizabeth
>
> *Save the earth. It's the only planet with
chocolate.*
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thu,
26 Oct 2006 11:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Acemannan
availability
>
>
> Elizabeth,
>
> Thanks for
doing this!!! That is awesome of you to
> take time to find out
what's going on. You are
> helping out so many others by doing
this-that's why I
> like you!
>
> :)
>
Wendy
>
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I've been
on the phone this morning with Veterinary
> > Products
Laboratories. They were unable to answer
> > my questions but
say they will have someone call me.
> > I also left a message
for the CEO of Carrington
> > Labs (without a great deal of hope that
they will
> > return my call). I did my best to be friendly
and
> > professional...here is a list of my questions (and
>
> general talking points):
> >
> > I understand that the
injectable form of veterinary
> > Acemannan is being withheld from
the market due to
> > an audit of this product. As a member of
the
> > felineleukemia.org mailing list, I would like to ask
>
> you some questions. We have no commercial interests
> >
and only want to give our pets the best possible
> > life. Many
of us have very sick cats with feline
> > leukemia and would very
much like to purchase your
> > product.
> >
> >
1) What organization is responsible for the
> >
unavailability of this product? Do you have the
> > name of a
contact person for this organization?
> >
> > 2)
When was this audit instigated?
> >
> >
3) It was my understanding that this is a
> >
routine audit – yet this audit has been going on
> > for well over
a month. This is the first I have
> > heard of a routine audit
that prohibits people who
> > need the drug from purchasing it for
such a long
> > period of time. How often does this happen and
are
> > there any other products which might suddenly become
>
> unavailable for long periods of time?
> >
> > 4)
I notice that wound dressings containing
> > Acemannan
Hydrogel are still available on the market
> > – how is it that the
non-injectable form of the
> > product is not affected by the
audit?
> >
> > 5) Is this product
available outside the US?
> >
> > 6) Is
it possible to purchase the raw materials
> > and formulate Acemannan
for injection for personal
> > use only?
> >
> >
7) Where can I go for more information?
>
>
> > Thank you for your time.
> >
> > I don't
know where to go from here. I'm thinking of
> > contacting the
FDA and asking them which
> > organization instigated this audit and
ask where I
> > can go for more information. If I find out
anything
> > further, I will let you all know.
> >
>
> elizabeth
> >
> >
> >
> >
-----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To:
[email protected]
> > Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 6:26
AM
> > Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
> >
>
>
> > Soon after they first began to withhold this product
>
> from the market, I called Veterinary Products Lab.
> > (Hideyo
found out about this initially when she was
> > trying to buy the
product). It was still available
> > on their site then
too. That's when they told me
> > about the audit. At
that time I searched for
> > restrictions and found nothing as
well. They said
> > this kind of audit was routine but I find
that hard
> > to believe since it has been withheld for so
long.
> >
> > elizabeth
> >
> >
>
> In a message dated 10/26/2006 6:12:37 A.M. Central
> > Daylight
Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >
>
http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management
>
>
> > so the injectible is still on their current webpage,
>
> for what that's worth!
> >
> > On 10/26/06, Paolo
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I dug in my old Emails
about ACEMANNAN (please
> > note the double N in the
> >
> spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN
> > won't work),
and in effects
> > > once I contacted Carrington Labs, and
they
> > redirected me to Veterinary
> > > Products
Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com),
> > that unfortunately
I
> > > could not contact at that time because their mail
>
> server kept bouncing
> > > back my emails.
> > >
From the info in my possession, injected Acemannan
> > works great
with a
> > > number of *localized* (i.e. not spread)
tumors.
> > Carrington Labs, at that
> > > time, did not
mention any FDA restriction.
> > >
> > > Good
luck
> > > Paolo
> > >
> > >
>
>
> >
> > --
> > Spay & Neuter Your
Neighbors!
> > Maybe That'll Make The Difference....
>
>
> > MaryChristine
> >
> > AIM / YAHOO:
TenHouseCats
> > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ICQ:
289856892
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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