Bless you for trying to help these babies.  Sometimes all you can do is
provide comfort and caring at the last.  Elsa was lucky to have you.
 
Diane R.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Debbie
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Help needed




I personally thought that the operation was a bit extreme for vomiting,
but 2 vets were in agreement. They x rayed her and saw just like a fuzzy
mass in her intestines that they thought was something stuck. We brought
her home after the operation and she had stopped vomiting. Her name was
Elsa. She was such a good kitty. I just couldn't get her to eat at the
last so we called the vet. They asked then if she had had a leukemia
test. I had told them no in the beginning. That's when they ran it and
said it was possitive. We went ahead and agreed to put her to sleep
because the vet said she thought the fluid would just come back on her
lungs. 
We have been heartbroken on all of this. A few months ago we found two
other cats. One had been injured by farm equiment and ended up dying.
The other was so diseased and debilitated that they put him down. My
husband and I both cried over these and they weren't even ours. 
We have tried to help and now I wonder if we just made matters worse. 


        -----Original Message----- 
        From: Kelley Saveika 
        Sent: Feb 26, 2007 12:22 PM 
        To: [email protected] 
        Subject: Re: Help needed 
        
        
        I think it is pretty likely they won't test positive - the
disease is pretty hard to spread in adult cats.
         
        Opinions vary on this list about mixing positive and negative.
In this case, my opinion would be if they have been together this long
why separate them now?   But they aren't my cats, so you need to make a
decision you feel comfortable with. 
         
        I'm sorry for the loss of your cat.
        
         
        On 2/26/07, Debbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

                the price is for what they call a snap test, a
vaccination, and a booster in a few weeks. This was the cheapest vet in
a tri county area. We live in Ohio. 
                do you really think there is a possibility that they
won't test possitive? If some do and some don't do they need separated,
if vaccinated? 


                 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: Kelley Saveika 
                        
                        Sent: Feb 26, 2007 11:59 AM 
                        To: [email protected] 
                        Subject: Re: Help needed 
                        
                        
                        Hi Debbie,
                         
                        I would check around with other places in your
area to see if you can find the tests cheaper.   I can get a combo test
here for $16 per cat, which would be way less than $1,000.  
                         
                        At this point I'm not sure I'd be in a rush to
test all of them.  They have been together and likely either have it or
they don't (most likely not).
                         
                        On 2/26/07, Debbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
wrote: 

                                The cats were all spayed and neutered
and had all shots except the feline leukemia. They have been to the vet
yearly or whenever needed. We aquired so many at once we could not
afford the testing and shots. A lady I worked with found 3 kittens in a
dumpster, 2 weeks later 4 more - we bottle raised all of them and they
all lived. At that same time a stray came in winter and had 4 babies.
They all lived also. A month after this we took a trip 500 miles away
and found 2 kittens starving in a field in  the middle of nowhere. We
brought them back. These were tested (not sure why vet decided this) and
they were ok at that time. All the cats got along and seldon fought. If
they did it was not the biting, scratching, etc... Soon after that a cat
roamed up at a barbeque we had. She was young and in heat. We did not
want her to get pregnant and she stayed so we brought her in. She was a
very shy cat. She liked attention but seldom went near the others. Her
eyes, nose, and mouth were clear (no discharge). A few weeks ago she
started throwing up. We took her to the vet. She had nver been seriously
ill (none have). They are all around 4 yrs, old now. Anyhow the vet said
something was probably stuck in her intestines so they operated. All
they found was enlarged lymph nodes. They did a biopsy and said they
were not cancerous. She started doing better but then it was hard to get
her to eat. We took her back in and they said her lungs had fluid in
them. They drained it off. After all of this they came back and said she
tested postive for leukemia. They recommended putting her to sleep. 
                                Now we have a nightmare. We have all the
others, plus just paid out $700.00 for a cat that they ended up putting
down. Don't know if the operation threw her into it all or what.
                                We are going to have the others tested
but it will be over $1000.00. We feel awful. If you don't have the money
though it isn't always as some people think to keep up with everything. 
                                
                                
                                 
                                

                                -----Original Message----- 
                                From: Kelley Saveika 
                                Sent: Feb 26, 2007 11:25 AM 
                                To: [email protected] 
                                Subject: Re: Help needed 
                                
                                I don't think anyone can give you odds
on that.  I would say it would be unlikely that they will all be
positive and quite possible that none will be positive.  If there is
anything I have learned from this list it is that FELV is pretty hard to
catch.  Were any of the cats vaccinated against FELV? 
                                
                                
                                On 2/26/07, Debbie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

                                What are the odds of having 15 cats and
one tests postive - will the others all be postive? These are cats that
are strictly indoors now in a 1200 square foot house. The infected cat
was not outwardly sick and di not socialize with the other cats, however
they used same litter boxes and ate from same dishes. 
                                Any help would be greatly appreciated.
All cats are close to same age, different litters, aquired at the same
time.
                                
                                




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