There was an 18 year old siamese is a county shelter that I was looking at
last night.. Looking through the list of about 30 cats that they had I
noticed
that they also had 2 other siamese as well as all the cats seemed like they
would make great pets...
Then I noticed that about one in four were declawed !!!
If you want a declawed cat there are plenty of great kitties just dying
waiting
to be adopted and already declawed...
Tad
Kelly L wrote:
At 04:56 AM 6/10/2007, you wrote:
I did not even get in to that issue but it is an important one. Many
many elderly persons bleet with a touch as theri skin is so thin. Mine
is like that now and i never heal . I try to wark long sleeves but I
am very scared up. If a person is a diabetic it is much worse as they
infect so easily. they are all choices we make in this world and i
would rather see a kitty declawed than allowed to live out doors.
Kelly
I have to support Kelly. I will go to any possible lengths to avoid
declawing but there are times it is in both the cat's and caregiver's
best interest. There is laser technology available that takes most
of the pain out of it surgery. I had my mother's cat declawed
because every time she (the cat) even looked at Mom, Mom bled
profusely and it took hours to stop the bleeding. Never mind the
bruises. Kitty did not mean to hurt Mom but just routine stretching
produces nails. Neither she nor the other cat seemed any worse for
the experience and I am very sure that both, if asked, would have
given up the first digits to their "fingers." I know I would in
exchange for a home, food, and all the love imaginable.
Dixie is not declawed and I am praying that the day never comes when
I have to do that. With a compromised immune system ...........
well, I just pray. She is wonderful about what she scratches and I
have AC friends who talk to her when she "forgets." Like most on
this list, I have adjusted my taste in furniture and found that lacey
throws on couches and other upholstered pieces stop a lot of damage.
And there is no carpet in the house (the floors are taking a beating
from the constant running and turning but that is ok). There will be
no long, expensive drapes.
Beliefs are very strong on this issue and I understand how volatile
it is. I'm just throwing in my own thoughts. And the thought that
perhaps we need to ask the cats in question what they would prefer
when death is a serious option.
If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise
with their fellow man.
St.
Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly L <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote:
this is where I will disagree. does it hurt for a few weeks. Yes
it does but a good vet gives good pain medication. Are there long
term consequences, That is debatable, A close friend, fellow
rescuer and Feline behaviorist plus RVT has had all 14 of her
cats declawed, In the past when I actually had furniture and a
dog that lost an eye just about I chose to declay the front
toes. Yes I know what is involved,
the cat went on the live a happy and very healthy 15 more years.
Now that I have given up drapes furniture and dogs that live in
close proximity with my cats i would never do it, but I have
adopted out cat to people I knew would, but I also knew what
wonderful cat parents they are.
Braces a cruel and frequently put on our kids for only cosmetic
reasons, we subject our kids to years of discomfort,
I would opt for a declaw rather than to have a cat tossed outside
by one or the other care giver.
and to euthanize a cat instead makes me see red.
Kelly
Beth, it's not my "never declaw ideal" that made me say
that, it is my genuine belief that declawing causes long
term physical and psychological suffering, and I do not
think putting a suffering cat through more things to make it
suffer more is a correct course of action. Two wrongs don't
make a right. Declawing is 100% cruel and inhumane, and
euthanasia is 100% humane when done correctly. To me, there
is no gray area there, it's black and white. To eliminate
suffering, yes, I will euthanise an animal. I do not have
those strong no-kill ideals others have these days. My son
bites his fingernails until they bleed sometimes... would I
ever THINK to even consider amputating his fingers to solve
that problem? True, it WOULD completely eliminate the
problem, and his self-mutilation, but at what cost? That's
how I feel about it. That's just me, personally. I'd like to
see a $1000 fine and mandatory 90 days in jail for felony
animal cruelty for anyone that has a cat declawed - that and
the revoking of veterinary licenses for any vet that does
the surgery. But I admit, I'm totally way on one side of the
fence on declawing - probably to the point of being
impractical and even a bit of a lunatic.
Phaewryn
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