Vinegar is supposed to work as well as bleach. When you use bleach consider
rinsing an extra time or two. It should help remove the bleach after it has
done its job. If you have the space and litter boxes, leaving them in the
sun/fresh air after cleaning them may help.
If you believe it is stress related (again, my thoughts): Try Rescue Remedy in
all the water bowls, Feliway spray (this may help with the pee problems too),
One alternative vet gave me something called Cat Nap (Aromacat---Aromatherapy
for cats) to help reduce the stress of moving for one of my little friends.
There are Bach Remedies that help reduce the stress of being abandoned. White
Chestnut, Red Chestnut, and Sweet Chestnut come to mind but I am no expert. I
pick up the phone or email when I have problems. My little friends have all
been abandoned or were/are feral and stress has been a major issue with them.
I freely use animal communicators and have had wonderful luck reducing stress
in them. This may be to far out for you. It is for a lot of people. I am
just struggling to come up with things that have worked for me or for others I
know. New thought: Someone, either on this list or a stomatitis list, had
wonderful results with Just Born. I am not sure what the circumstances were
but the colostrum in it might help boost the immune system, especially for the
very young ones. I use the powdered in Dixie's food frequently just for the
added nutrients.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with their
fellow man.
St. Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelley Saveika
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
I use bleach. I have to to kill the virus such as URI that comes from the
sheltr. I use bleach in the litterboxes to kill the giardia, coccidia. I use
bleach in my sheets so i don't hav eto sleep on peed on sheets.
I try to use simple green when I think it will work.
The thing that mystifies me is that it is affecting a 10,12, and 2 5 year
old cats...yet the 3 weeks olds are just fine *knock wood*. 3 of them were
owner surrenders and one was obviously an owned cat -spayed and very friendly.
A great staff favaprote at T:AC
I thik they are distessed and it is destroyuing their immune system.
On 6/27/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
No decks or fences? Here they tried to use treated wood (the new version)
in the walls where it touched the concrete.
Any insecticides? Termite/roach/ants stuff? Any cleaning solutions?
Bleaches?
I'm not picking at you. Please don't think that. I know of other cases
where things we think nothing of cause problems for our friends and many times
we never find out what. Consider that there appears to be an increase in
cancers among people that some are blaming on the numerous chemicals now in our
food, water, homes.
If you have a good alternative vet in your area, try him/her. The ones I
know can sense the problems when regular vets, who are really attuned to
science and the scientific method, just can't. Mine have convinced me that
even the little blue crystals in some litter is not good for cats. They have
the ability to see as a cat. It is much like baby-proofing a house. You get 6
inches from everything with your nose, eyes, mouth etc.
You mentioned carpet. Consider what you use to clean it and whether it is
outgassing. I don't have any here but picked up a piece to make Dixie a
scratching post (very good carpet remnant). It has been on the porch rail for
3 months outgassing. Dixie won't have anything to do with it and it will never
make it into the house again. I am just trying to see how long it takes the
odor to go away. Again, I am not picking at you. This awful set of events
may be something entirely within the cars. I had 2 unrelated female cats
several months apart die. I trapped them and had them spayed at different
local vets. One had every test done before she was spayed. The other had just
the basics done. Both appeared extremely healthy. Both were fine the night
before they died but both died the third day. I was so totally broken up that
I asked my personal vet (120 miles away) what was going on. Without an autopsy
(animal version) no one could be sure but he couldn't come up with anything.
One could easily have had undetected heart problems but both of them???????????
All of this is to say that sometimes things just happen no matter how careful
we are and, again, please don't think I am picking at you............just
throwing out ideas/feelings in the hope that something might ring true with
you. You have been thru so much. Maybe an angel will sit on your shoulder and
whisper an answer. That is my prayer for you.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
St.
Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelley Saveika
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
I don't have any wood. I have concrete subfloor, carpet over some of it,
vinyl tile over other parts of it, it is all by itself in som eplaces. Where
the ac flooded and we had to rip up the tile...but that was 3 years ago...
On 6/27/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
They did until a couple of years ago and it is still available for some
uses. Two/three years ago, after it had been banned for use in houses, a
dealer for BK Cypress Log Homes quoted me a package that contained arsenic
treated lumber and, when I questioned him, sent me an awful email regarding the
safety of this wood and how no person would eat it. Tennessee Log Homes had a
dealer who was very unhappy when I rejected some of his arguments re arsenic
treated wood. (There is a lot more to that story.......if you ever consider
using them email me personally and you won't consider it for long). Arsenic
leaches into the soil and poisons the plants, water etc. It is also used in
some fencing and creosote is used in RR ties that are used for landscape
timbers. Power poles and telephone poles as well as fence posts more than a
couple of years old are probably treated. They certainly weren't removed.
There are questions about the current "accepted" treated woods. Please
remember how long the arsenic treated was considered safe. Obviously I am a
tree-hugger but please, with that many illnesses, please have it checked.
If you have men who
will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise
with their fellow man.
St.
Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: Leslie Lawther
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Something is killing my cats, please help me
Do they use arsenic in pressure treated lumber still today?!?
On 6/27/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
Check for arsenic as in treated lumber.......decks, play areas etc.
Even wood used in a basement.
If you have men
who will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise
with their fellow man.
St. Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: Kelley Saveika
To: felvtalk
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:18 PM
Subject: Something is killing my cats, please help me
This is the toll so far from this year, not including kittens.
Joey - 10 - died in late April. Being treated for AIHA.
Lucky Lady - 12 - got sick, was adopted by my vet, apparently
recovered but is now dying, they think cancer.
Caroline - ran up a bill in excess of $1,000. No one knows what
was or is wrong. Possible FIP (but she's getting better), brain cancer, toxo.
Suzie - I don't even want to see the bill and don't know how I am
going to pay it. Possible FIP, toxo.
They are all 5 and up. All presented with massive dehydration
(skin tenting), anorexia, massiive weight loss.
Some w/neuro symptoms..bloodwork varying...
All tested neg/neg for FELV.
Tehy are down to looking in my house for asbestos and
lead....someone please help me...I don't know what is killing my cats....
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To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a
garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded.
That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success.
---Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Please help Caroline!
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