Sorry I offended you but I stand by not using chorine bleach around a cat.  
Further I believe vinegar is a commonly used disinfectant.  Again, sorry I 
don't live up to your high standards.






                                                 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
                                                 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
                                                 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
                                                                  St. Francis
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nina 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 3:43 PM
  Subject: Re: James are you out there?


  Wendy,
  The two latest examples that have come to my attention are the suggestions to 
substitute vinegar for bleach when disinfecting for possible panluek 
contamination, (with a mention that most infectious diseases don't last long in 
the environment) and the use of Prednisolone Acetate Ophthalmic Suspension, 
(steroid eye med), for all leukemia-positive patients who exhibit eye problems, 
(dangerous side effects can occur esp when the eye is lacerated).  I'm not 
saying that we should know all the ramifications regarding everything we 
suggest in our efforts to help, what I am saying is that what is posted should 
be clarified with a disclaimer when we are not sure.  It is always better to 
'back up' our statements with links to studies that illustrate our viewpoints 
regardless of our certainty.  We must always keep in mind that while many of us 
have been dealing with this insidious disease long enough to be confident in 
treating less serious maladies at home, there are those that are not 
experienced enough to recognize what is potentially dangerous and what is not.  
I have said many times that when dealing with felv pos kitties, it is never a 
good idea to take a 'wait and see' approach.  When we post advice with an 
authoritative tone it may dissuade someone from making a potentially life 
saving visit to the vet.

  I certainly do hope that you are right and that I am over reacting about the 
danger to this list.  If you re-read my post when going digest you will see 
that my being overwhelmed personally was only one of the reasons I stated for 
leaving.  We had recently lost a long time valuable member because of hurt 
feelings, and for me, the list was beginning to lose what was always one of 
it's most valuable benefits; the feeling of safety and belonging that we felt 
in coming together for the common good of helping and caring for our sick fur 
babies.  This forum is difficult enough on our emotional sensibilities without 
attacking each other or pointing judgmental fingers at those who's beliefs and 
circumstances are different than our own.
  Nina

        Subject: Re: James are you out there? 
        From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
        Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) 
        To: [email protected] 


  Nina,

  As much as I love you, I do not agree with your saying that incorrect 
information is being presented as matter-of-fact.  Can you please post specific 
examples of this happening?  Anytime this does happen, usually someone here can 
clarify.  I have not gone anywhere, am here every single day, and have not seen 
this happening as you say.  Yes, it's true that many long time members are not 
around, but we don't know all the reasons for each one's absence.  I know 
Elizabeth left because of personal reasons, and you said you had a lot going on 
recently so were going digest for a while.  As someone who is very active on 
this site, I was disappointed to read your post because I do not feel the same 
way you do.  Some OT, yes, BUT, fortunately we aren't seeing much going on in 
the way of people needing FeLV help, so the OT does help keep the group active 
when there is not a lot going on.  I agree that the mean spirited stuff should 
not happen, however, there are only three instances that I know of in the past 
year, all three in the past 3 months, and 2 of those have been resolved and the 
other I believe the same in a matter of days.  I do not see that this list is 
in the danger that you do.  There are people here to help when help is needed.

  Respectfully,
  :)
  Wendy


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