Bleach is the only thing that kills panleuk, then it must be at the proper concentration and left for the proper duration. Otherwise it can persist on surfaces for months or years.
My vet has recommended that I bleach all bleachable surfaces daily due to some virii I have had. I have not had a cat die from me using bleach. I have had a cat die from this "mystery virus" I have had - my vet believes it is mutated calici. I don't know about the efficacy of vinegar on whatever this is, but I do know bleach will kill it. I get regular bleach from Target. On 8/20/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry I offended you but I stand by not using chorine bleach around a > cat. Further I believe vinegar is a commonly used disinfectant. Again, > sorry I don't live up to your high standards. > > > > > > > If you have men who will > exclude any of God's creatures > from the shelter of > compassion and pity, you will have men who > will deal likewise with > their fellow man. > St. > Francis > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Monday, August 20, 2007 3:43 PM > *Subject:* Re: James are you out there? > > > Wendy, > The two latest examples that have come to my attention are the suggestions > to substitute vinegar for bleach when disinfecting for possible panluek > contamination, (with a mention that most infectious diseases don't last long > in the environment) and the use of Prednisolone Acetate Ophthalmic > Suspension, (steroid eye med), for all leukemia-positive patients who > exhibit eye problems, (dangerous side effects can occur esp when the eye is > lacerated). I'm not saying that we should know all the ramifications > regarding everything we suggest in our efforts to help, what I am saying is > that what is posted should be clarified with a disclaimer when we are not > sure. It is always better to 'back up' our statements with links to studies > that illustrate our viewpoints regardless of our certainty. We must always > keep in mind that while many of us have been dealing with this insidious > disease long enough to be confident in treating less serious maladies at > home, there are those that are not experienced enough to recognize what is > potentially dangerous and what is not. I have said many times that when > dealing with felv pos kitties, it is never a good idea to take a 'wait and > see' approach. When we post advice with an authoritative tone it may > dissuade someone from making a potentially life saving visit to the vet. > > I certainly do hope that you are right and that I am over reacting about > the danger to this list. If you re-read my post when going digest you will > see that my being overwhelmed personally was only one of the reasons I > stated for leaving. We had recently lost a long time valuable member > because of hurt feelings, and for me, the list was beginning to lose what > was always one of it's most valuable benefits; the feeling of safety and > belonging that we felt in coming together for the common good of helping and > caring for our sick fur babies. This forum is difficult enough on our > emotional sensibilities without attacking each other or pointing judgmental > fingers at those who's beliefs and circumstances are different than our own. > Nina > > Subject: > Re: James are you out there? From: > wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: > Sun, 19 Aug 2007 16:28:20 -0700 (PDT) To: > [email protected] > Nina, > > As much as I love you, I do not agree with your saying that incorrect > information is being presented as matter-of-fact. Can you please post > specific examples of this happening? Anytime this does happen, usually > someone here can clarify. I have not gone anywhere, am here every single > day, and have not seen this happening as you say. Yes, it's true that many > long time members are not around, but we don't know all the reasons for each > one's absence. I know Elizabeth left because of personal reasons, and you > said you had a lot going on recently so were going digest for a while. As > someone who is very active on this site, I was disappointed to read your > post because I do not feel the same way you do. Some OT, yes, > BUT, fortunately we aren't seeing much going on in the way of people needing > FeLV help, so the OT does help keep the group active when there is not a lot > going on. I agree that the mean spirited stuff should not happen, however, > there are only three instances that I know of in the past year, all three in > the past 3 months, and 2 of those have been resolved and the other I believe > the same in a matter of days. I do not see that this list is in the danger > that you do. There are people here to help when help is needed. > > Respectfully, > :) > Wendy > > > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!

