Don't know how many cats you have. I need to have one more box than cats 
because some of mine want to poop in one and pee in another.  I got Lucy when 
her previous human took her to the vet to be KILLED for going outside the box. 
She was 8 months old and had diarrhea ~ a food change fixed the stools.
Lucy likes TWO boxes. We did retraining in one room with 2 boxes. 
She was picked on by some of the other kitties for awhile and chased out of the 
box while doing her business, so she would find a safe place to go. Nothing of 
that for a long time now. She used to go on plastic....??

My Cooper MUST have a clean box. He will cry and beat at the door to get out of 
the bedroom in the morning if all 3 boxes in the bath have something in them 
~because he wants to get to a clean box on first floor (I keep them shut in 
bedroom with me at night)...as soon as I scoop the master bath boxes he calms 
down. 

Check out the internet for more ideas about solutions.

Poo and peeing outside usually are for different reasons. Wonder if she used to 
go outside and didn't even have a box where she lived before....and so she is 
going the closest place to where she thinks she is supposed to go. Can you keep 
a box close to that location? (or 2?). Pooping outside the boxhas always meant 
to me a problem with DIGGING. Either the litter smells (perfumes or other 
kitties), needs to be scooped, or is too deep or not deep enough or not in a 
quiet enough spot to give her time to dig properly....an affinity for lineoleum 
might suggest a very low level of litter so she can push it aside to pee on the 
floor of the box. My Winston likes to dig down to the plastic. He and Cooper 
lived their first 3 months with someone who provided ONE box and a crawl space 
for 11 kittens and 2 mommies (say no more). Wonder about getting those puppy 
training pads and putting my the door?

Good luck. Keep researching!
Check out Pam Johnson-Bennett on the internet and get her book Think Like a 
Cat. It's my cat bible.

Laurie


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM
  Subject: RE: OT: litter box problem


  Thanks Glenda for the kind words!  I don't think we could stand to leave her 
in a room by herself all the time, but I think I'll take your advice and try 
putting her in the office while we're at work. Then she'll get used to the box 
in there. Then when I let her out, I'll leave the door open and she can go in 
there as she pleases while we're home. We'll see how that works. I think you 
had good advice. If I can just get her away from that area, she'd go in the 
box. She goes in the box when it's downstairs anyway, but just not all the 
time. Yes, our house is small, but it does have 3 tiny bedrooms, so at least we 
have extra rooms to isolate her in. It's just a tiny house for 6 cats! Thank 
goodness we have a full basement. It's not finished, but that's purrfect for 
litter boxes, food dishes, etc.

   

  Yes, my husband has been (and is) very sweet. He just loves Penelope. He has 
to hold her, feed her the special kitten food, make sure there's always water, 
etc. He still thinks she's got a home to go to in November-which is my goal 
although it's not set in stone. We're really getting attached to the little 
cutie though! But, I hope we find a home for her because that will make room 
for other rescues. 

   

  Melissa

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of glenda Goodman
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:42 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: OT: litter box problem

   

  Melissa, 

  I know you are having terrible problems,but your

  letter made me smile. 

  You are such a sweet , patient, humorous person. 

  Well, it is pretty awful having this right at your

  front door. She seems to have programmed herself to

  that spot. 

  Would you dare to try another area of the house for

  her, where she could be locked up for a while? I

  imagine you do not have a lot of spare rooms, because

  I think once. you said your house was small? Anyway,

  I'd try to find a room for her, even if it is your

  bedroom,  keep her there for a couple weeks, at

  least(.I would not keep her in a small place like the

  bathroom...she would hate that...kittens need to run

  around...) It would seem she would then get

  conditioned to using the potty in a different place,

  hopefully the litter box. After a couple weeks the

  smell will get more out of that front door area and

  get her broken of the "habit" of her going there. 

  After you see her use her litter box, praise her, kind

  of like you would praise a dog after he goes outside.

  I would not praise her as she was going ,because cats

  have a bit more dignity about going in front of you

  than dogs, but getting loved and praised and maybe

  even a treat once in a while, after she uses the

  litter box, might help her get the idea...

  Good luck to you, and your sweet husband! 

  Glenda

   

    

  --- Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

   

  > Okay, we're still having a problem with baby

  > Penelope (4 months). When she

  > first came home, she did her business on the

  > laminate floor in front of the

  > front door. So, I moved one of the litter boxes

  > there. She went fine in the

  > box. Then, I tried to move the box downstairs-not

  > with the others, but apart

  > so she'd feel as though it's still for her. No luck.

  > Poop and pee in front

  > of the front door. Then I moved the box back there.

  > No problems. 

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > I then tried to slowly move the box closer to the

  > downstairs. I placed it

  > one foot off of the laminate floor on a rug. No

  > luck. Poop and pee on the

  > floor! 

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > Last night I tried something new. I used the plastic

  > rug liner stuff with

  > the pokey things on the bottom. Put that face up

  > over the flooring. I

  > sprayed the area with cat repellant. I woke up to

  > the sound of her trying to

  > cover her pee on the plastic. Grrr!

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > I cleaned it up. Told her that she needs to go

  > downstairs. I don't think she

  > was listening. I left the liner there to see what

  > will happen today while

  > I'm gone, but I'm not hopeful. Any ideas? She's

  > using the box in the

  > basement, but she still thinks she can go in the old

  > area. I've cleaned up

  > the area with Catergent which is supposed to remove

  > the enzymes/scent. Plus,

  > I covered it with owie-plastic stuff which would

  > cover up the smell anyway.

  > There's really no way to block off the area that I

  > can think of. I can't

  > think of a way to construct something she can't

  > climb over.

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > I don't think she's doing it out of anxiety (as

  > Bandit was) or because of

  > any difficulties peeing (besides, it's usually just

  > poop that shows up

  > there). The puddle that was there this morning was

  > normal colored, etc. 

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > Thanks. I know this is really OT, but I was hoping

  > that you guys have all

  > had plenty of experience with this.

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > By the way, today is national "talk like a pirate

  > day" me mateys! 

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > Melissa Lind

  > 

  > Contract Administrator 

  > 

  > DEG Enterprises, Inc.

  > 

  > 200 Norfolk Av.

  > 

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  > 

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  > 

  > Fax: 402-379-3604

  > 

  >  

  > 

  > 

   

   

   

         

  
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