Laurie, This is a very interesting subject when you
think about it. It would probably be worth a book?  I
now realize why my litter boxes upstairs never have
poop in them , but the one downstairs, at the base of
the basement steps, does. Also, I have a couple of
kitties that hate using the litter box at all and hold
it forever waiting to go outside in the morning.  I
have one that insists on always going outside. I do
not think I have ever seen him use a litter box. He is
back inside within a few minutes, so I know he just
likes out, to use the bathroom. All my guys are very
good and never have a litter box mishap.  My oldest,
12-13 years old, is the one I have never seen use a
litter box. He also likes to spray outside ,but never
sprays in the house. Well almost never... 
I think, in all his years, he has made a boo boo and
sprayed in the house maybe once or twice a year...This
is bad, but considering he sprays outside every day, I
think he just makes a mistake and I forgive him. My
son however, gets very upset with him.  
We have hardwood floors, thank goodness and he does
not spray the furniture, so it is something I can put
up with. What he might spray is a new object, like a
box brought in from outside, something strange to
him... 
We have added six new kitties in the last two years.
He was the only one for several years ,so I guess we
are lucky he has not gone ballistic...
Glenda 
--- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don't know how many cats you have. I need to have
> one more box than cats because some of mine want to
> poop in one and pee in another.  I got Lucy when her
> previous human took her to the vet to be KILLED for
> going outside the box. She was 8 months old and had
> diarrhea ~ a food change fixed the stools.
> Lucy likes TWO boxes. We did retraining in one room
> with 2 boxes. 
> She was picked on by some of the other kitties for
> awhile and chased out of the box while doing her
> business, so she would find a safe place to go.
> Nothing of that for a long time now. She used to go
> on plastic....??
> 
> My Cooper MUST have a clean box. He will cry and
> beat at the door to get out of the bedroom in the
> morning if all 3 boxes in the bath have something in
> them ~because he wants to get to a clean box on
> first floor (I keep them shut in bedroom with me at
> night)...as soon as I scoop the master bath boxes he
> calms down. 
> 
> Check out the internet for more ideas about
> solutions.
> 
> Poo and peeing outside usually are for different
> reasons. Wonder if she used to go outside and didn't
> even have a box where she lived before....and so she
> is going the closest place to where she thinks she
> is supposed to go. Can you keep a box close to that
> location? (or 2?). Pooping outside the boxhas always
> meant to me a problem with DIGGING. Either the
> litter smells (perfumes or other kitties), needs to
> be scooped, or is too deep or not deep enough or not
> in a quiet enough spot to give her time to dig
> properly....an affinity for lineoleum might suggest
> a very low level of litter so she can push it aside
> to pee on the floor of the box. My Winston likes to
> dig down to the plastic. He and Cooper lived their
> first 3 months with someone who provided ONE box and
> a crawl space for 11 kittens and 2 mommies (say no
> more). Wonder about getting those puppy training
> pads and putting my the door?
> 
> Good luck. Keep researching!
> Check out Pam Johnson-Bennett on the internet and
> get her book Think Like a Cat. It's my cat bible.
> 
> Laurie
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Melissa Lind 
>   To: [email protected] 
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 8:58 AM
>   Subject: RE: OT: litter box problem
> 
> 
>   Thanks Glenda for the kind words!  I don't think
> we could stand to leave her in a room by herself all
> the time, but I think I'll take your advice and try
> putting her in the office while we're at work. Then
> she'll get used to the box in there. Then when I let
> her out, I'll leave the door open and she can go in
> there as she pleases while we're home. We'll see how
> that works. I think you had good advice. If I can
> just get her away from that area, she'd go in the
> box. She goes in the box when it's downstairs
> anyway, but just not all the time. Yes, our house is
> small, but it does have 3 tiny bedrooms, so at least
> we have extra rooms to isolate her in. It's just a
> tiny house for 6 cats! Thank goodness we have a full
> basement. It's not finished, but that's purrfect for
> litter boxes, food dishes, etc.
> 
>    
> 
>   Yes, my husband has been (and is) very sweet. He
> just loves Penelope. He has to hold her, feed her
> the special kitten food, make sure there's always
> water, etc. He still thinks she's got a home to go
> to in November-which is my goal although it's not
> set in stone. We're really getting attached to the
> little cutie though! But, I hope we find a home for
> her because that will make room for other rescues. 
> 
>    
> 
>   Melissa
> 
>    
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of glenda Goodman
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:42 AM
>   To: [email protected]
>   Subject: Re: OT: litter box problem
> 
>    
> 
>   Melissa, 
> 
>   I know you are having terrible problems,but your
> 
>   letter made me smile. 
> 
>   You are such a sweet , patient, humorous person. 
> 
>   Well, it is pretty awful having this right at your
> 
>   front door. She seems to have programmed herself
> to
> 
>   that spot. 
> 
>   Would you dare to try another area of the house
> for
> 
>   her, where she could be locked up for a while? I
> 
>   imagine you do not have a lot of spare rooms,
> because
> 
>   I think once. you said your house was small?
> Anyway,
> 
>   I'd try to find a room for her, even if it is your
> 
>   bedroom,  keep her there for a couple weeks, at
> 
>   least(.I would not keep her in a small place like
> the
> 
>   bathroom...she would hate that...kittens need to
> run
> 
>   around...) It would seem she would then get
> 
>   conditioned to using the potty in a different
> place,
> 
>   hopefully the litter box. After a couple weeks the
> 
>   smell will get more out of that front door area
> and
> 
>   get her broken of the "habit" of her going there. 
> 
>   After you see her use her litter box, praise her,
> kind
> 
>   of like you would praise a dog after he goes
> outside.
> 
>   I would not praise her as she was going ,because
> cats
> 
>   have a bit more dignity about going in front of
> you
> 
>   than dogs, but getting loved and praised and maybe
> 
>   even a treat once in a while, after she uses the
> 
>   litter box, might help her get the idea...
> 
>   Good luck to you, and your sweet husband! 
> 
>   Glenda
> 
>    
> 
>     
> 
>   --- Melissa Lind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>    
> 
>   > Okay, we're still having a problem with baby
> 
>   > Penelope (4 months). When she
> 
>   > first came home, she did her business on the
> 
>   > laminate floor in front of the
> 
>   > front door. So, I moved one of the litter boxes
> 
>   > there. She went fine in the
> 
>   > box. Then, I tried to move the box
> downstairs-not
> 
>   > with the others, but apart
> 
>   > so she'd feel as though it's still for her. No
> luck.
> 
>   > Poop and pee in front
> 
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