Sue, you cracked me up with your description of Charlie! My Frankie has asthma. 
So did Teddy and Keisha. Sometimes Frankie's eye runs. Is Charlie on inhaled 
meds? Frankie is and this has all but stopped his attacks. What a blessing as 
he is also blind.

My friend had a feline leukemia negative cat living in the room with her 
positive cats for 5-6 years. She didn't realize he was negative (and he may 
have tested positive before she put him there). She retested him because he 
never got the upper respiratory infections or anything that the others seemed 
to get. He was negative! She moved him then and he is still alive. He' was an 
obnoxious long haired red boy when he was staying in that room. He is gorgeous 
but he would come sailing across the room at you, totally unexpectedly and land 
on you ~ nails extended! He was probably trying to get someone to notice his 
robust health!
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sue & Frank Koren 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Sweet Buzz

  Thank you for your advise about Buzz, and I am so very sorry about your 
Brumley.  What an aching empty place they leave in your heart when they are 
gone!  It sounds like he couldn't have been in a better place for his last 
months, though. I just joined this group and I think the first thing I have 
learned is not to read these e-mails at work.  I sat at my desk this afternoon 
with tears rolling down my face when I read about Brumley.
  Buzz is here with me in my computer room right now. He enjoys laying on my 
arm while I am trying to type.  I have set the room up like a cat playground 
with loads of toys, a chair by the window, a place to scratch and of coarse his 
food tray and litter box.  Even so he cries when he is left in here and it 
breaks my heart.  I bring him out and hold him often in the rest of the house 
and I can see that he wants to get down and play with the other cats. I am 
afraid to let him mingle with the others even if they are older cats.  Charlie 
is my big dumb dark grey boy. He loves everyone that comes near him, human and 
cat.  He loves to lick the other cats. If a cat could bounce along going doit 
de doy de doy with a huge smile on his face, that would be Charlie. He has 
asthma and for several months last year he had a lot of trouble with the feline 
herpes virus in his eyes.  Tucker is about the same age as Charlie (7).  He 
recently had to have all his teeth removed because his immune system was 
attacking the bacteria on his teeth.  He also gets spells where he acts drunk  
(the vet calls it a vestibular episode).  They only last for about a half hour 
and the vet has said to give him vitamin B1.  Because of these problems I am 
afraid that they might have problems fighting off the FeLV virus.  
  Thank you for the advise about food, I will look into feeding Buzz something 
that is better.  Right now he gets IAMS dry food for indoor cats, and I heard 
that spring water is good for FeLV + cats, so he gets that also.  I still think 
he would be happiest in a home where he could roam the whole house and maybe be 
with other cats, but in the meantime I intend to do everything for him that I 
  I am not the best at computers, so if I am doing this incorrectly, I 
apologize and please feel free to correct me.
  Thank you,
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Caroline Kaufmann 
    Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:56 AM
    Subject: RE: Sweet Buzz

    I agree with everything Lance said.  I foster kittens and also have regular 
house cats and the fosters have a room- my bedroom which is actually 2 rooms 
put together-- that they live in.  As long as they have their clean environment 
(which I have to keep clean because it's my room!) and play and affection, they 
are fine with it.  Eventually, the ones I end up keeping may be integrated into 
being house cats, but I've been doing it this way for months and it's fine.  A 
lot of people on this list- or more so formerly on this list- have FELV+ rooms. 
 Many people even mix them because the transmission rate is very low- much 
lower than you would think- and vets have differing opinions on this (so do 
owners of FELV cats).  I had an FELV cat and he was my only cat for the 4 years 
I had him but I made that choice because he hated other cats (and that is 
probably why he had FELV to begin with- he was a "fighter"!) and I was so 
obsessed with him that I didn't want to expose him to any run-of-the-mill 
diseases that another cat could have that he maybe wouldn't be able to fight 
off as well b/c of his FELV.  But I have a vet who mixes Felv cats with 
non-Felv and she says there's never been any transmission- that the critical 
time period is when they are very young kittens and if they don't pick up Felv 
then, it's very unlikely they will get it as they get olde because their immune 
system matures and their body develops antibodies and a system for fighting off 
these feline retroviruses.  It's when they are kittens and have an immature 
immune system that they are most susceptible to transmission.  So she will mix 
adult non-Felv cats with Felv+s and has never had a transmission issue.  
    I'm not telling you what to do- it's a personal decision- but I do think 
it's one that has to be made with as much info at hand as possible and one 
single vet is not going to provide you that.  Sadly, in this day and age, there 
are STILL vets who recommend putting to sleep an ASYMPTOMATIC Felv cat (which 
frankly, I think is malpractice).  So you need to consult a lot of different 
resources to make a fully informed decision.  
    You also need to have Buzz retested in approximately 6 months.  There can 
be a lot of false positive tests in kittens for FELV.  My Felv cat was already 
about 2 years old when I found him and I had him retested 3 times (positive 
every time) b/c I was in such denial!  He was so strong and never had anything 
wrong with him until the end.  But retesting is a must with this disease, but 
you need to wait at least 6 mths.
    There's lots of good info in the archives about mingling Felv and non-Felv 
cats, retesting, and if you should decide to keep him- all the things you can 
do to boost his immune system and hopefully keep him asymptomatic for as long 
as possible-- diet is HUGE-- very important.  So definitely take a look at 
those and look for subject lines that will indicate what the discussion was 
    Good luck.

    > To:
    > Subject: Re: Sweet Buzz
    > Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:56:10 -0600
    > Hi Sue,
    > I think it's great that you've given Buzz a new lease on life. It amazes
    > and
    > disgusts me that anyone would abuse an animal. Thanks to you and your 
    > brother's family for taking care of him.
    > I will say that, as someone who has to isolate a wonderful, sweet FeLV+
    > girl, I don't think it's cruel to keep an animal in one room, as long
    > as their needs are met, they are given love and affection, and they get
    > some time to play, even if it's in the one room. 
    > If you love Buzz, I think you should consider keeping him. If he does
    > not have direct contact with your other cats, and as long as you keep
    > his dishes and litterbox away from them when you're taking them out
    > to be cleaned, the risk of them catching the virus AND actually becoming
    > persistently infected would seem to be incredibly low, if not zero. The
    > virus is fragile, and can't live outside of a cat for more than a few
    > minutes.
    > I'm definitely not trying to make you feel guilty or bad. It's just that
    > you
    > obviously love the little guy, and you might be the person he
    > needs for the rest of his life. My Ember is almost six years old, and
    > other
    > than what seems like a yearly, intestinal bacterial overgrowth that's
    > been
    > easily treated thusfar, she's really doing well. Whatever you decide,
    > thanks again for looking out for Buzz.
    > Lance
    > On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:35:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
    > > Hello to All... 
    > > I recently took a cat my brother had rescued from some neighborhood kids
    > > who were abusing and kicking him. He had fleas, worms and ear mites and
    > > was near death. My brother and his wife nursed him back to physical
    > > health, but he was terrified of people. They had been calling him Buzz
    > > Saw because of the way he behaved when anyone tried to touch him. When
    > > I visited my brother, my sister in law threw a blanket over him to catch
    > > him and handed him to me. I cuddled him in and after a while he began to
    > > purr. He was terrified of people reaching for him, so when we reached
    > > for him we did so with treats in our hands. His whole personality began
    > > to change and Buzz and I really began to bond. When I took him home I
    > > had fortunately kept him away from my other 5 cats. I took him to our
    > > vet to be checked over and neutered. I found out he is 8 - 10 months old
    > > and the heartbreaking news - he is FeLV positive. I have read as much as
    > > I could and 
    > > tried to find a way I could safely keep him with my other cats, but that
    > > does 
    > > not seem to be possible. Even if I vaccinated my other cats the risk is
    > > too 
    > > great. A couple of them have their own issues, and if they got feline
    > > leukemia, 
    > > too, it would probably be the end of them. Buzz is now living in one
    > > room of 
    > > my home and I am trying to find a good home for him. I would almost like
    > > to be 
    > > selfish and keep him anyway because he has turned into one of the most
    > > loving, 
    > > entertaining wonderful cats I have ever had, and I have had many. It
    > > would not 
    > > be fair to keep him in one room for the rest of his life, though. Oh, by
    > > the 
    > > way, his name is still Buzz, but now it stands for Buzz Light Year - To
    > > Infinity 
    > > and Beyond! If anyone knows of a home where he will be well taken care
    > > of and 
    > > happy, please let me know. 
    > > Thanks, 
    > > Sue 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > -- 
    > Lance Linimon

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