The lives or condition of life of our cats are not important to them.  For that 
fact, our lives are not important, only their pockets full of money.

---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: 
> I don't disagree with that sentiment, but I have to tell you that Winstrol is 
> not "big pharma". In fact, one of my frustrations is that there is a 
> medication out there which has proven itself to be extremely beneficial in 
> treating a lethal condition in cats, and yet most vets either don't know 
> about it or don't prescribe it. Winstrol, and other anabolic steroids, have 
> been blackballed by the scientific community because they hane been used as a 
> performance enhancing drug by athletes. Some of you who follow these things 
> will recall that it was Winstrol (Stanozolol) which was found in Canadian Ben 
> Johnson's samples which got him stripped of the gold medal in running in the 
> 1988 Olympics. Frankly, I don't understand why this association with illegal 
> use in athletes should mean that the scientific community as a whole refuses 
> to look at the effectiveness of this group of drugs. Moreover, looking at the 
> scientific studies that do exist makes it clear that there are no solid stud
 ie
>  s linking the use of these drugs to the many scary side effects the public 
> always hears about. Even if side effects do exist (as they do with virtually 
> every drug out there) athletes abuse these drugs by using them in huge doses 
> and "stacked" in combination with all kinds of other drugs, so this is hardly 
> reflective of how these drugs are supposed to be used, or would be used in a 
> medical context. 
> 
> We aren't professional athletes, and many cats the world over are suffering 
> from lethal conditions like leukemia, and yet, instead of being told that 
> there MAY be a medication that could help (and I'm not of course saying it 
> always does), we are instead routinely told there is nothing we can do but 
> watch our babies fade away from the infection. 
> 
> It is obvious that Winstrol is not on the "Big Pharma" approved list because 
> it is difficult to obtain, even from the vets, and they are pretty skeptical 
> about it, so it certainly isn't a medication which is being "pushed" or 
> promoted by "Big Pharma". With Zander, when he recovered from what was 
> clearly a death spiral (his PCV was 5% and he couldn't move, and couldn't 
> breathe without an oxygen tent over his head), and even though I had 
> meticulously run and collected his blood work both before and after the use 
> of Winstrol, some vets started to question whether he had had leukemia in the 
> first place. So, when the medication works when it isn't supposed to, then 
> the vets start saying that maybe he wasn't dying after all.
> 
> I tried Winstrol on Zander out of sheer desperation. When we were told he 
> couldn't have any more blood transfusions because he had reacted to his 
> second one, we were giving him the LTCI injections and following his blood 
> work closely. The LTCI was doing nothing and I was watching his PCV drop 
> lower and lower again. When it reached 10 (after a high of only about 16 
> after the blood transfusions), I knew I was going to lose him soon with no 
> other options available (after scouring the internet and speaking to experts 
> everywhere). I literally went through the drawer I keep all the cat 
> medications for all the emergency cat fostering I do, and I found Winstrol. 
> It had been given to me years before by another vet for a cat with FIP, but 
> the cat had passed away so quickly, I had had no time to even try the 
> medication. I remembered that the vet had said that the Winstrol MAY help to 
> stimulate appetite and make the cat feel better. I had nothing else so I 
> figured, what the hell, and u
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>  d it on Zander. I expected NOTHING. Three days later, I noticed this very 
> very slight blush on his so-pale gums, and I was pretty sure I was making it 
> up because I was so desperate. I showed my husband. He too thought he saw 
> something but both of us figured we were just so desperate for a miracle that 
> we were hallucinating. We took Zander to the vets that Saturday for 
> bloodwork, and his PCV came back at 12. We couldn't believe it and obviously 
> remained skeptical. But week after week, the PCV climbed steadily until it 
> was in the 30's, and he was eating and playing long before that.
> 
> I don't think it is a miracle cure at all, but I do think it is a very good 
> option for leukemia, and I remain frustrated that this option is not being 
> offered in most situations where a cat has leukemia. It makes no sense to me, 
> and doesn't to this day, that most people are not even told about the option 
> of using it, when there are really no other decent treatments out there and 
> the odds of the cat surviving this infection are really really poor. Because 
> I had such an amazing response with Zander and his leukemia, I have used it 
> in other situations where again we are told the vets have no answers, and the 
> results continue to be pretty impressive, although unlike in Zander's case, I 
> have not confirmed them as thoroughly with serial weekly blood work.
> 
> I shall now dismount from my soap box!
> 
> Amani
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Lorrie
> Sent: September-22-15 8:23 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Big Pharma
> 
> On 09-21, [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > I am sorry if I sound so negative on modern medicine, but have had 
> > some bad experiences and it leaves me a bit suspicious of modern 
> > medicine.  I have had a lot of luck with alternatives in cleaning up 
> > the side effects of it using an alternative salve and tonic.
> > 
> 
> Can't say I blame you for being negative.   Big Pharma is in it for
> the almighty dollar!
> 
> Lorrie 
> 
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