In Texas, they were found to be a special kind of property like a photograph...but then that was rescinded...not sure what the status is now..but at any rate you do sign a disclaimer saying you will not sue so...
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:32 PM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm a lawyer. First, I can tell you that there wouldn’t be much of a > lawsuit in the passing of an ill cat (or even a healthy one for that matter > - they are just properly under the law) and second, writing down and > signing that you take full responsibility in that circumstance, is an > almost impossible hurdle to overcome. Vets in Canada don’t get sued very > much at all, so I would be surprised if this was even a consideration for > them here. I don’t know the circumstances in the U.S., but they are still > considered property (chattel) so I doubt things would be much different in > the legal sphere. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: October-24-15 3:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update > > tHEY ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF LAWSUITS, THE CAT DIES AND NO MATTER WHAT > YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU MIGHT SUE. > > ---- Maya D'Alessio <[email protected]> wrote: > > My vet seemed to really be influenced by the one study citing > > potential liver issues. I get it, it could cause liver issues, but in > > most cats it went away after coming off the drug, and if a cat is > > literally dying, then potential liver side effects are much less of a > > concern. To me it seemed like the vets don't want to use drugs that > > have side effects they are concerned about...but then they wanted to > > use AZT which is associated with non-regenerative anemia! I have a two > > vet practice that I go to, the one vet is very understanding and has > > been doing lots of research in to what I've been sending (she was > > quite interested in the LTCI), but the other vet is not really > > interested in hearing me out > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Maya D'Alessio > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > My vet seemed to really be influenced by the one study citing > > > potential liver issues. I get it, it could cause liver issues, but > > > in most cats it went away after coming off the drug, and if a cat is > > > literally dying, then potential liver side effects are much less of > > > a concern. To me it seemed like the vets don't want to use drugs > > > that have side effects they are concerned about...but then they > > > wanted to use AZT which is associated with non-regenerative anemia! > > > I have a two vet practice that I go to, the one vet is very > > > understanding and has been doing lots of research in to what I've > > > been sending (she was quite interested in the LTCI), but the other > > > vet is not really interested in hearing me out > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Ardy – good for you! > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Frankly, though, with the Winstrol, no matter what they come back > > >> and tell you, I would insist. None of them will have to deal with a > > >> bad outcome if that happens with Tigger, and you don’t want to be > left with “what-ifs”. > > >> That has been my attitude since all this happened to me as well. > > >> This is MY cat and I hold MY cat’s life in my hands and I am not > > >> too interested in whatever weird perspectives they may have on what > > >> is politically okay or not okay about Winstrol (and seriously – I > > >> think it IS all about athletic doping scandals). > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I am very proud of you Ardy. Let us know how things go for you. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Amani > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On > > >> Behalf Of *Ardy Robertson > > >> *Sent:* October-23-15 7:57 PM > > >> > > >> *To:* [email protected] > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> I called both of my vet offices today. One was too busy to talk but > > >> they said they would call me back tomorrow morning. The other one > > >> talked to me and I was quite firm (proud of myself) telling him I > > >> would like the 4 vets in the office to either speak with me in a > > >> group, or talk amongst themselves and then I would come in and talk > > >> about my Tigger’s future treatment. I talked about Winstrol to him, > > >> and he promised to check with the veterinary specialists and see > > >> what they have to say about it. I told him I wanted to know about > > >> Tigger’s bloodwork (he has had blood tests, but no one has given me > > >> any results so I am really in the dark). I told him I want to be > > >> pro-active and not lose valuable time to treat things that pop up. > > >> He made a lot of promises to me, and I sincerely hope he follows > > >> through. I tried to impress upon him how important our little > > >> furball is to us, and that he deserves to have everything possible > > >> done for him. I told him I am willing to do the supportive care > > >> longterm or whatever is necessary, but did not want to do the > > >> unnecessary things. My goal is to change their minds about > > >> instantly writing off kitties who happen to be unfortunate enough to > have this virus. I am so happy I found your group because I see that > everyone who has posted seems to be of the same opinion. > > >> > > >> Ardy Robertson > > >> > > >> Osseo, WI > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected] > > >> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Maya > > >> D'Alessio > > >> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 7:08 AM > > >> *To:* [email protected] > > >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Good luck Kelley! Let me know how your vet reacts about the Winstrol. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:51 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> tHAT IS WHAT MY VET SAID WHEN i GOT ANNIE. THE OTHERS ARE SAFE IF > > >> THEY ARE VACCINATED. > > >> > > >> > > >> ---- Kelley S <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Well, I am happy to say she is eating like a champ. She ate one > > >> serviing > > >> > of Prowl today, plus a can of food, plus some dry food - I don't > > >> > really like her eating dry but it will put weight on her. > > >> > > > >> > Best of all, my vet say he has no problems letting her in with > > >> > the rest > > >> of > > >> > my vaccinated cats. I have 2 more vaccinations to go, one is > > >> > tomorrow > > >> and > > >> > the other one is next Friday. He even said when he brought the > > >> > FELV+ kittens to his house, he made sure his other cats were > > >> > vaccinated first > > >> and > > >> > then let them in with the others. > > >> > > > >> > I'm going to try my best to ask again about Winstrol tomorrow. > > >> > > > >> > Kelley > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. > > >> org > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> > > >> Maya D'Alessio > > >> > > >> PhD student > > >> > > >> B1 377B, x32320 > > >> > > >> Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator > > >> > > >> Biology GSA Vice Chair > > >> > > >> GSA Director At-Large > > >> > > >> University of Waterloo > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia. > > >> org > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Maya D'Alessio > > > PhD candidate > > > President > > > Graduate Student Association > > > COM 104 > > > University of Waterloo > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Maya D'Alessio > > PhD student > > B1 377B, x32320 > > Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA > > Director At-Large University of Waterloo > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
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