Ya, after Scotchy died following his rabies vaccination, they insisted on 
testing him for rabies because he had dug his claws into my arm hanging onto me 
for dear life when I took him back to the vet. They said they had to be sure he 
didn't have rabies in which case I would have been exposed. I had to pay $100 
for them to send his head to Madison to be tested for rabies. They were really 
encouraging me to pay $700 to send his whole body down there. Hello!! I already 
had a dead cat - if they wanted to send his whole body they could do it without 
my $700. (I paid the $100 and tried not to think about what was going to 
happen.)


-----Original Message-----
From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 2:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update

tHEY ALSO HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF LAWSUITS, THE CAT DIES AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU 
SAID BEFORE, YOU MIGHT SUE.

---- Maya D'Alessio <[email protected]> wrote: 
> My vet seemed to really be influenced by the one study citing 
> potential liver issues. I get it, it could cause liver issues, but in 
> most cats it went away after coming off the drug, and if a cat is 
> literally dying, then potential liver side effects are much less of a 
> concern. To me it seemed like the vets don't want to use drugs that 
> have side effects they are concerned about...but then they wanted to 
> use AZT which is associated with non-regenerative anemia! I have a two 
> vet practice that I go to, the one vet is very understanding and has 
> been doing lots of research in to what I've been sending (she was 
> quite interested in the LTCI), but the other vet is not really 
> interested in hearing me out
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:13 PM, Maya D'Alessio 
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
> > My vet seemed to really be influenced by the one study citing 
> > potential liver issues. I get it, it could cause liver issues, but 
> > in most cats it went away after coming off the drug, and if a cat is 
> > literally dying, then potential liver side effects are much less of 
> > a concern. To me it seemed like the vets don't want to use drugs 
> > that have side effects they are concerned about...but then they 
> > wanted to use AZT which is associated with non-regenerative anemia! 
> > I have a two vet practice that I go to, the one vet is very 
> > understanding and has been doing lots of research in to what I've 
> > been sending (she was quite interested in the LTCI), but the other 
> > vet is not really interested in hearing me out
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Amani Oakley 
> > <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Ardy – good for you!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Frankly, though, with the Winstrol, no matter what they come back 
> >> and tell you, I would insist. None of them will have to deal with a 
> >> bad outcome if that happens with Tigger, and you don’t want to be left 
> >> with “what-ifs”.
> >> That has been my attitude since all this happened to me as well. 
> >> This is MY cat and I hold MY cat’s life in my hands and I am not 
> >> too interested in whatever weird perspectives they may have on what 
> >> is politically okay or not okay about Winstrol (and seriously – I 
> >> think it IS all about athletic doping scandals).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am very proud of you Ardy. Let us know how things go for you.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Amani
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On 
> >> Behalf Of *Ardy Robertson
> >> *Sent:* October-23-15 7:57 PM
> >>
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I called both of my vet offices today. One was too busy to talk but 
> >> they said they would call me back tomorrow morning. The other one 
> >> talked to me and I was quite firm (proud of myself) telling him I 
> >> would like the 4 vets in the office to either speak with me in a 
> >> group, or talk amongst themselves and then I would come in and talk 
> >> about my Tigger’s future treatment. I talked about Winstrol to him, 
> >> and he promised to check with the veterinary specialists and see 
> >> what they have to say about it. I told him I wanted to know about 
> >> Tigger’s bloodwork (he has had blood tests, but no one has given me 
> >> any results so I am really in the dark). I told him I want to be 
> >> pro-active and not lose valuable time to treat things that pop up. 
> >> He made a lot of promises to me, and I sincerely hope he follows 
> >> through. I tried to impress upon him how important our little 
> >> furball is to us, and that he deserves to have everything possible 
> >> done for him. I told him I am willing to do the supportive care 
> >> longterm or whatever is necessary, but did not want to do the 
> >> unnecessary things. My goal is to change their minds about 
> >> instantly writing off kitties who happen to be unfortunate enough to have 
> >> this virus. I am so happy I found your group because I see that everyone 
> >> who has posted seems to be of the same opinion.
> >>
> >> Ardy Robertson
> >>
> >> Osseo, WI
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]
> >> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Maya 
> >> D'Alessio
> >> *Sent:* Friday, October 23, 2015 7:08 AM
> >> *To:* [email protected]
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Coco update
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Good luck Kelley! Let me know how your vet reacts about the Winstrol.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 3:51 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> tHAT IS WHAT MY VET SAID WHEN i GOT ANNIE.  THE OTHERS ARE SAFE IF 
> >> THEY ARE VACCINATED.
> >>
> >>
> >> ---- Kelley S <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Well, I am happy to say she is eating like a champ.  She ate one
> >> serviing
> >> > of Prowl today, plus a can of food, plus some dry food - I don't 
> >> > really like her eating dry but it will put weight on her.
> >> >
> >> > Best of all, my vet say he has no problems letting her in with 
> >> > the rest
> >> of
> >> > my vaccinated cats. I have 2 more vaccinations to go, one is 
> >> > tomorrow
> >> and
> >> > the other one is next Friday.  He even said when he brought the 
> >> > FELV+ kittens to his house, he made sure his other cats were 
> >> > vaccinated first
> >> and
> >> > then let them in with the others.
> >> >
> >> > I'm going to try my best to ask again about Winstrol tomorrow.
> >> >
> >> > Kelley
> >>
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> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Maya D'Alessio
> >>
> >> PhD student
> >>
> >> B1 377B, x32320
> >>
> >> Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator
> >>
> >> Biology GSA Vice Chair
> >>
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> >>
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> > Maya D'Alessio
> > PhD candidate
> > President
> > Graduate Student Association
> > COM 104
> > University of Waterloo
> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Maya D'Alessio
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> B1 377B, x32320
> Graduate Studies Endowment Fund Coordinator Biology GSA Vice Chair GSA 
> Director At-Large University of Waterloo


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