You guys are embarrassing me. I'm just like everyone else in this group. Stark raving mad about my cats, willing to fight anyone to get what I need for them, and not afraid to be called a Crazy Cat Lady.
Amani -----Original Message----- From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Realissa Dekraunti Sent: June-07-16 12:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22 Amani rocks Sent from my iPhone > On 07 giu 2016, at 08:27, [email protected] wrote: > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: uveitis ([email protected]) > 2. Re: uveitis ([email protected]) > 3. Re: uveitis (Ardy Robertson) > 4. Re: uveitis ([email protected]) > 5. Tucker (Rachel Dagner) > 6. Re: both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do now? > (Rachel Dagner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:24:18 -0500 > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > Message-ID: <20160606192418.IXWS5.1444.root@pamxwww02-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! > > > ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> >> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... >> I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple >> ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet >> counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... >> Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the >> Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is >> getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so >> important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my >> guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the >> first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so >> called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone >> Tx in this case......?? >> >> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes >> a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to >> do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it >> nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO >> hard".... >> >> Bob >> Warwick NY > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 18:28:33 -0500 > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > Message-ID: <20160606192833.BTTII.1453.root@pamxwww02-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Actually, I am glad for so many knowledgeable people in this group who seem > to know more than most vets around the country. > > ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> >> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... >> I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple >> ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet >> counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... >> Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the >> Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is >> getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so >> important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my >> guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the >> first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so >> called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone >> Tx in this case......?? >> >> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes >> a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to >> do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it >> nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO >> hard".... >> >> Bob >> Warwick NY > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2016 23:33:07 -0500 > From: "Ardy Robertson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to see > kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed away, and > she lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two years of her > life -- completely blind. But for some reason it did not hinder her. > She adapted. We did not really even notice anything other than she > went up and down the steps on the far right side, so she nearly > touched the wall as she went. Then she mostly stayed near the outside > wall of the room. I would put her kitty beds touching the wall where > she felt comfortable. She found her dishes because they were where > they always were. She continued to interact with us as if nothing had > happened. She came when we called her and would lay on our laps and > purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let her be. We had > another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was young at that > time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then one day in > 2005 she just went to sleep p > eacefully. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > > Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! > > > ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> >> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... >> I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple >> ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet >> counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... >> Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the >> Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is >> getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so >> important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my >> guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the >> first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so >> called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone >> Tx in this case......?? >> >> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes >> a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to >> do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it >> nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO >> hard".... >> >> Bob >> Warwick NY > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 8:19:43 -0500 > From: <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > Message-ID: <20160607091943.YYXYD.27255.root@pamxwww08-z01> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > A beautiful story! I had a miniture poodle who lost her sight to cataracts. > We had gotten 2 new cats. One day, we discovered that the cats were bring > mice for her to "hunt" and when they got out of her sight, they would pat > them and run them back into her line of sight. They also kept her out of the > road by bumping into her and guiding her back into the yard. Animals are so > wonderful. These 2 cats who never knew Pia before, were looking after her as > though she was part of their family. Pia lived to 19 good years, all we had > to do is never change the furniture or placement of food and water bowls and > she never seemed to notice the change in her life. > > ---- Ardy Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >> On a side note, even though one would certainly never ever want to >> see kitty be blind, we had my dad's cat after my parents passed >> away, and she lived to be 19. Dodsie went blind about the last two >> years of her life -- completely blind. But for some reason it did not >> hinder her. She adapted. We did not really even notice anything other >> than she went up and down the steps on the far right side, so she >> nearly touched the wall as she went. Then she mostly stayed near the >> outside wall of the room. I would put her kitty beds touching the >> wall where she felt comfortable. She found her dishes because they >> were where they always were. She continued to interact with us as if >> nothing had happened. She came when we called her and would lay on >> our laps and purr etc. As long as she was not in pain, we just let >> her be. We had another cat (that we still have - Peekers) and she was >> young at that time, and they interacted as if nothing was wrong. Then >> one day in 2005 she just went to slee p > peacefully. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of [email protected] > Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:24 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis > > Amani, I am glad we hae you in the group! > > > ---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bob, I?d be giving the cortisone treatment a try, but because this problem >> is caused by the FeLV virus, you really have to go after the virus itself. >> Trying to fight the battle to save the eyes on their own, won?t be enough >> while the virus is still attacking the body. Try the Winstrol with >> prednisone and doxycycline, along with the corticol topical treatment. >> >> Amani >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL >> Sent: May-27-16 11:31 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] uveitis >> >> Wonder if anyone has has any success with treating Uveitis in FeLV cats..... >> I've had my 10 mo. old guy to two different Vets...One prescribed tribple >> ABX with Corticosteroid which had no appreciable effect.... the other vet >> counseled against using Cortisones due to the risk of Corneal Ulcers.... >> Without treatment my guy is now losing his vision...he has blood in the >> Anterior Chamber in both eyes and Lens clouding in the right eye..... It is >> getting VERY troubling when I get different opinions about something so >> important.... I'm having rather a difficult time sitting by and letting my >> guy go blind..... The Literature all points to Corticosteroid Drops as the >> first line treatment.... but this is for the disease as it affects so >> called " normal " cats..... Which is the lesser of evils with Cortisone >> Tx in this case......?? >> >> Currently following Amani's suggestion from a while ago and rinsing his eyes >> a few times a day with Contact Lens Solution to keep them from Gunking >> up.... but..... He IS losing and none of the vets appear at all inclined to >> do further testing..... Again.... it's like they are saying " Oh isn't it >> nice that you want to save this sweet FeLV Kitty but, really, don't try TOO >> hard".... >> >> Bob >> Warwick NY > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 10:33:13 -0400 > From: Rachel Dagner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Felvtalk] Tucker > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I lost him yesterday morning. He was having a really hard time > breathing due to the tumor in his chest. It was time, they got me in > right away. It was so very hard to say goodbye. I haven't been able to quit > crying since. > It's so unbelievably hard, even knowing that it would happen soon. I > miss him so much. Everything reminds me of him. I am at work luckily > alone today, and can't quit crying. I had him with me at work last > week and he was laying on my desk and purring and sleeping. It's just > so hard to believe he is gone. I sat in the parking lot at my vets for > at least an hour with my car door open, just in case he spirit needed > to get inside and come home with me. I know it will get better, but > right now the pain is just unbearable. I know that those here who have > gone through this understand where I am right now. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:27:05 -0400 > From: Rachel Dagner <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do > now? > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Realissa, > > > > I am sorry to hear about your babies, the diagnosis is a real > heartbreaker, I know. If you are interested in a holistic approach to > keep them healthy there is a really good book called The Nature of Animal > Healing by Dr. > Marin Goldstein. He is known as one of the best integrative vets in > the world, integrative meaning he uses conventional and holistic > remedies for his patients. He has cured animals that owners were told > were not curable or that conventional medicine alone did not work for. > Which I think is the best kind of vet. His clinic is based out of New > York, if I lived there and had known about him that is where I would > have gone for my baby right from the get go, no doubt. He has a > section in his book on what he has done for FELV kitties to keep them > healthy and from developing the bad things that can come along for > FELV cats. I think the biggest thing I have learned about FELV is that > we should probably not vaccinate them, especially if they are indoor > cats. Vaccinations do a number on even a healthy animals immune > system. He does have suggestions on how to keep them strong if they > must endure vaccinations due to state laws, and suggests that if you > do vaccines that you should not do them all at once or in combo doses > as this is too much for the immune system to handle at one time. There > is a very real reason they have now* finally* started doing 3 year > vaccinations instead of yearly, even though Veterinarians have been > pushing for it since the 90s. The side effects, the sick animals, the > cancer that they have caused? it is all very scary and with a FELV or > immune compromised cats and dogs even more so. I hope you can push > past the fear, come up with a solid game plan to do the best you can > for them and then just enjoy them and put Felv on the back burner and > go on as normal. This is what you have to do, and you will, and you > will come to terms with the situation and move forward. I will pray that your > babies stay healthy and happy for many, many years to come. > > > > Rachel > > > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Realissa Dekraunti > *Sent:* Sunday, June 05, 2016 8:51 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] both of my cats are FELV positive. What to do now? > > > > Hi everybody. Thank you for accepting me in this group. I am just too > devastated to think straight. I rescued two cats in October and I > found out two days ago that they are both Felv positive. We did an > Elisa test on Thursday, and it came back positive, and an IFA that > confirmed the positive results. I live in LA and I don't know what to > do, where to go, if there is alternative medicine. I love these two > cats more than I could ever imagine and it is breaking my heart. Any > input, help, direction you could give me, would be incredibly > appreciated. They are FIV negative but FELV positive. I have heard > there is a medicine called LTCI but that it is very expensive. I am > also heard of Virbagen Omega, L Lysin, Interfone. There is so much info that > I am overwhelmed. > > > > to add some information. > > > > Date of birth: May 7, 2015 > ELISA "snap" test at Animal Wellness Center: June 25, 2015 (age: 7 weeks). > Results: weak positive for FeLV > IFA confirming test at Animal Wellness Center: June 30, 2015 (age: 7 > weeks, > 5 days). Results: negative > ELISA "snap" test at Animal Wellness Center: August 1, 2015 (age: 12 > weeks, > 2 days). Results: weak positive for FeLV ELISA in-lab test at Animal > Wellness Center (sent to IDEXX): August 13, > 2015 (age: 14 weeks). Results: negative > > > > June 1, 2016 ELISA test both came positive > > > > June 2, 2016 IFA both came Felv positive FIV negative > > > > Thanks a lot > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attac > hments/20160607/5446a41e/attachment.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 26, Issue 22 > **************************************** _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list [email protected] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
