My suggestion if that happens is to change vets. Winstrol (Stanozolol) is the
only thing that worked to “turn on” my Tigger’s marrow to improve his blood
cells. It helped him so much that the pathologist re-ran his blood tests
thinking there was a mistake! However, the delays (runarounds) that I
encountered getting a prescription for Winstrol, and possibly my own hesitance
in the very beginning to try something that some vets would not prescribe,
meant that Tigger did not get the Winstrol in time. So even though his
bloodwork was getting so much better, I was too late. Amani is the person who
knows the most about Winstrol and bloodwork, so I will let her speak about it,
but I wanted to chime in to say that I agree with her, and Tigger was living
proof that Winstrol turns the bone marrow back on to producing blood cells to
reverse the anemia. Your cat probably also needs the prednisolone and
doxycycline along with it. Apparently the doxy works to stop the virus from
duplicating – or something like that – Amani can explain it better. Best of
luck to you and your baby.
PS – there is a compounding lab in Arizona (Diamond Back Drugs) that will mail
it to you once they receive your vet’s prescription.
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Any suggestions on what to do if the vet doesn't want to prescribe Winstrol?
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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1. Re: My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV (Amani Oakley)
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The only thing that works to turn back on red cell production is Winstrol
(Stanazolol). It is an ANABOLIC steroid (as opposed to most steroids we are
used to getting, like prednisone, which is a corticosteroid.
Anabolic steroids are ones which build muscle, tissue, etc.
Adding Winstrol to the combination of medication you have your cat on right
now, would be the best thing to do. The Doxycycline acts to slow down or
inhibit the reproduction of the FeLV virus by interfering the RNA duplication.
The prednisone is helpful in keeping inflammation at bay, but neither of these
helps to increase the red cells. The Winstrol acts directly and very quickly on
the bone marrow and seems to get red cells generated again, quite promptly. At
least it did for my Zander, and I have been contacted directly by several
people from this group, who have reported to me that they also saw almost
immediate (within 3 days) evidence of their cats? gums/ears/pads pinkening up.
The problem is that Winstrol is a controversial drug because it is also what
professional athletes use to get bigger, stronger and faster. Quite
unfortunately (since none of our cats are entering the Olympics) that
association with doping scandals has cast a shadow on its use in both animal
and people medicine. In human medicine, it is the only drug found to be
effective in treating hereditary angioedema and anemia.
Here is a blurb I found about it:
Winstrol was first invented in 1959. Soon after that, the UK based Winthrop
Laboratories created a prescription medicine from it. Later, in 1961,
Winthrop?s patent was bought by the US based Sterling that started
manufacturing and selling the drug in the American markets.
In the beginning, Winstrol was used for a variety of medical reasons. But
later, by the 1970s, the FDA had restricted its use to only promoting growth
and treating osteoporosis. In the 1980s, there was a termination of the
manufacture of anabolic steroids in the American market. But Winstrol was among
those steroids which not only survived, but thrived in the 1980s and 1990s.
During this period, its use was reinforced as a cure for anemia ? as it had the
power to boost red blood cell count, and was used as a treatment for facial
swelling or angioedema.
When the manufacture of Winstrol was finally discontinued, Ovation
Pharmaceuticals bought the rights to manufacture it, in 2003. However, Ovation
Pharmaceuticals have ceased their operations now, so the Winstrol products
available today in the American markets are only generic and not pharmaceutical
grade. Outside the USA, however, several large brands still manufacture and
Genuine Stanozolol can be distinguished in water suspensions because it
separates from the liquid into micrometer particles. These particles will fall
to the bottom if the container is not disturbed for a few hours. The crystals
have a milky white color.
Winstrol can not only be used for humans, but it has veterinary uses as well.
Weakened or injured animals can be treated with Winstrol in order to promote
red blood cell count, strengthen bones, stimulate appetite, and enhance muscle
growth. It has also reportedly been used to dope horses in US horse races.
If your vet is willing to try this, he/she will need to order it from a
The dose should be 1 mg 2 times a day for a cat. If your cat is in poor shape
and needs an immediate boost, start him on 2 mg x 2 times a day for a week or
so, and then drop down to the lower dose.
Your vet will undoubtedly say that Winstrol is known to cause liver damage.
The first answer to this is, so what? FeLV will almost invariably result in the
premature death of cats. The vets have nothing which is directly effective to
fight FeLV. Things like Interferon may or may not assist but such a treatment
is again a side treatment where you are hoping to boost your cat?s immune
system, rather than a direct attack on the virus. It is also quite indirect in
that IF the interferon helps, it will be more long term, and only if it manages
to boost the immune system enough to permit your cat?s system to try and fight
the virus, and when/if the virus is inhibited enough, then MAYBE (if the virus
hasn?t already destroyed all the progenitor cells in the bone marrow) will red
cell production begin to climb again. Winstrol is the only medication that I
know of, (and believe me, I have looked!) that seems to work by turning back on
those progenitor cells or possibly promoting the growth of new ones since it
also works to enhance the production of bone cells
(effective against osteoporosis).
The second answer, regarding the liver damage, is that the only information
about this is quite suspect, coming out of a very poorly designed research
study where the cats in the study were given doses found effective on HUSKY
SLED DOGS for lord?s sake! The cats were given a LOADING DOSE via intravenous
injection, of 25 mg ? more than 10 times the recommended daily dose for cats.
That?s the only study which has found this supposed link between Winstrol and
liver damage. And even in that study, with those remarkably ridiculous doses,
the cats in that study only had elevated liver enzymes (no tumours, etc.) and
the liver enzymes dropped back to normal levels when the Winstrol was
discontinued. This is consistent with my experience as well. I refused to stop
the Winstrol for my cat, when the enzymes went up, because he was going to die
with the low red cell count he had. I kept him on Winstrol for around 10
months, before the red cells were in a normal range. During that ten mon
th period, I would wean him down a few times, but ALWAYS the red cells would
immediately drop again, so it was more than clear that it was the Winstrol
making the numbers rise. So, in the end, he had Winstrol pretty much for the
duration of 10 months and his liver enzymes went right back to normal again,
once I discontinued the Winstrol ? NO lasting damage. This was also my
experience with a second cat with a nasal sarcoma, and where I used the
Winstrol to keep her appetite up and reduce the swelling (she was 16). The
enzymes went quite high at the outset of my use of Winstrol, but went back to
normal when I weaned her off for a bit and then again when I ultimately took
her off the Winstrol.
Get the Winstrol if you can, and use it in combination with the prednisone
(which I am told also helps to protect the liver when the Winstrol is used) and
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of Liz McCarty
Sent: September-15-16 1:40 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] My baby recently diagnosed with FeLV
Looking for support, suggestions, and information. I've never had a cat with
FeLV. We took our 1 year old, Hodor, to the vet because he seemed lethargic and
in his stool there was a piece of floss that was red. At the vet things
escalated and they told us he was severely anemic and would need a transfusion
that day. I took off work and rushed him to a specialist. The vet there told us
she would run an FeLV test before doing anything in case we wanted to avoid the
extra tests and procedures. She told us he was FeLV positive and persistently
talked to me and my fiance about euthanizing him which was out of the question
for us. I took him to the vet thinking it was going to be minor and then she's
talking to me about killing him! We went forward with the blood transfusion.
It's been almost 3 weeks now. They had him on doxycycline in case there was a
bacterial cause, and prednisone. Last week he started interferon... Does anyone
have experience with that and know if it was effec
tive? I also started him on Pet Tinic. Any other suggestions? Any insight
into whether you think he will be able to pull through? He doesn't have cancer,
they ran the tests but don't know if it's in the bone marrow. I'm scared. We
have another one year old, unrelated, and they are best friends. It breaks my
heart to think they might be separated. She's not FeLV positive.
Additionally I have set up a go fund me to help with the costs we incurred, and
I want to donate half to FeLV research if anyone is interested.
Mainly looking for support and advice. Thank you in advance.
Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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