I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had
already started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer
instead he see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since
the doxycycline his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency
that I have in this vet, although she is better than the first who just
said to euthanize. Any ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled
for my area but nothing comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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   2. Re: Looking for advice (Amani Oakley)
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:33:47 -0700
From: Liz McCarty <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:43:30 +0000
From: Amani Oakley <[email protected]>
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Hi Elizabeth

Only you can say what is right for your little guy. However, I personally
would try the Winstrol and see what response you get with that. You already
had a better response with the Doxycycline, so there is still some hope.
Absolutely steel yourself though, because it is quite likely that your vet
will start pushing for euthanasia if that hasn?t already been suggested.
We?ve all had to deal with that pressure from the vets, on this chatline.
Resist taking him off the doxycycline and get him on the Winstrol if at all
possible. Winstrol has the potential of a quick effect, so you won?t have
to wait weeks and weeks to see if there is a positive effect, especially if
you draw bloodwork before he starts on the Winstrol. You can often see some
quick changes in the haematology profile.

Giving him another transfusion will also give some time for different
things to work, but again, if you aren?t seeing a discernable boost from
the Interferon alone, don?t put all your eggs in that basket. Keep him on
it if you like, but try to get the vet to give you the Winstrol as well.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Liz McCarty
Sent: September-27-16 2:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice


I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:28:54 -0500
From: Ashley Egger <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so sorry
you and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor in my
thoughts and prayers!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very
well. I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't
spoken with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard.
His eye is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him
though. I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm
not sure about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:37:50 -0500
From: "Ardy Robertson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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Hi Ashley,



If it isn?t too late for him the Winstrol is fabulous at helping build up
his blood. My Tigger?s blood work got so much better the pathologist reran
the testing process because he couldn?t believe what he was seeing in the
results. I did lose Tigg but I feel it was because I started the Winstrol
too late. Tigger had the one week on / one week off of the interferon for
about 2 months, and his blood declined while on it. But I suppose all cats
are different. I just wish I had started the Winstrol and Prednisolone
along with the Doxy much earlier. I too didn?t want him to suffer but I
don?t feel he suffered. Whatever you decide, you are doing your best for
him.



Best of luck to you and Hodor.

Ardy





From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Ashley Egger
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 6:29 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice



Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so sorry
you and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor in my
thoughts and prayers!

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty <[email protected] <mailto:
[email protected]> > wrote:

I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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