Yes Ardy. The doxycycline has been found to interfere with RNA replication 
which is how viruses reproduce.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ardy 
Robertson
Sent: September-28-16 11:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Hi Sherri,
Have you tried approaching your vet with the explanation that you heard that 
doxycycline stops the FeLV virus from, I believe, replicating? Amani - is that 
the terminology? Anyway, maybe your vet has not heard about this and may be 
curious enough to let you try it. I really feel the Winstrol course of 
treatment would benefit from doxy and the prednisolone.
Just a suggestion - I know vets can be egotistical and stubborn.
Ardy

From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 6:52 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37

Elizabeth, I am so sorry you are having such trouble getting your vet to try 
the meds. I can say personally that in my situation with Bogey, it DOES work. 
She is feeling so much better. I cannot get my vet to prescribe Doxycycline 
though and don't feel like I can push the issue. He has a fragile ego I think 
and I do not want to jeopardize him prescribing the Stanzolol to me. It is a 
dilemma for all of us I think with our vets.

I do so hope you can find someone in your area that is willing to try the 
Winstrol/Stanzolol. Changing vets is a nightmare I know and have been down that 
road myself. But if your current vet still resists and won't even try, I would 
be trying to find another. Do you have a teaching hospital in your area? Purdue 
University (School of Veterinary Science) here in Indiana I know goes above and 
beyond when you take your pet to them...I know this first hand as well for 
another situation I was in with a dog several years ago.

I so wish you luck. Don't give up.

Sherri



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Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 10:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 29, Issue 37


I spoke with the vet this evening and she said Winstrol doesn't work and 
actually can have negative side effects. I also didn't tell her I had already 
started him back on the doxycycline but she said she would prefer instead he 
see the regular vet to see what's going on with his eye. Since the doxycycline 
his eyes look normal again! I don't sense the same urgency that I have in this 
vet, although she is better than the first who just said to euthanize. Any 
ideas how to search FeLV specialists? I've Googled for my area but nothing 
comes up. I live in San Jose Ca

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438

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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:33:47 -0700
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Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice
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I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well.
I went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken
with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye
is looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though.
I want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure
about his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment
scheduled for 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating
weeks on and weeks off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment
they will ask us to euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion
to see if the interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a
shot? Or should we accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him
to suffer, and I don't want to put him through another round of this if
it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:43:30 +0000
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Hi Elizabeth

Only you can say what is right for your little guy. However, I personally would 
try the Winstrol and see what response you get with that. You already had a 
better response with the Doxycycline, so there is still some hope. Absolutely 
steel yourself though, because it is quite likely that your vet will start 
pushing for euthanasia if that hasn?t already been suggested. We?ve all had to 
deal with that pressure from the vets, on this chatline. Resist taking him off 
the doxycycline and get him on the Winstrol if at all possible. Winstrol has 
the potential of a quick effect, so you won?t have to wait weeks and weeks to 
see if there is a positive effect, especially if you draw bloodwork before he 
starts on the Winstrol. You can often see some quick changes in the haematology 
profile.

Giving him another transfusion will also give some time for different things to 
work, but again, if you aren?t seeing a discernable boost from the Interferon 
alone, don?t put all your eggs in that basket. Keep him on it if you like, but 
try to get the vet to give you the Winstrol as well.

Amani

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Looking for advice


I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well. I 
went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken with 
the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye is 
looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though. I want 
to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure about his 
blood count or what it will look like at our appointment scheduled for 10/4.  
He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating weeks on and weeks off. I'm 
worried when we take him for the appointment they will ask us to euthanize him. 
Would any of you try another transfusion to see if the interferon can work? Or 
if we get Winstrol to give that a shot? Or should we accept that it might be 
his time to go. I don't want him to suffer, and I don't want to put him through 
another round of this if it's inhumane, but I don't want to lose him. Thanks.

Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:28:54 -0500
From: Ashley Egger <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Liz, I don't really have anything to add but just want to say I'm so sorry you 
and Hodor are having to go through this. I will be keeping Hodor in my thoughts 
and prayers!

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> On Sep 27, 2016, at 1:33 PM, Liz McCarty 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> I posted a few days ago about my cat Hodor. He's still not doing very well. I 
> went ahead and started the doxycycline again even though I haven't spoken 
> with the vet - she was off Sunday and Monday. Still haven't heard. His eye is 
> looking a lot better with the doxycycline. I'm worried about him though. I 
> want to ask about Winstrol. I'm looking for advice though, I'm not sure about 
> his blood count or what it will look like at our appointment scheduled for 
> 10/4.  He's on his 3rd week of interferon... Alternating weeks on and weeks 
> off. I'm worried when we take him for the appointment they will ask us to 
> euthanize him. Would any of you try another transfusion to see if the 
> interferon can work? Or if we get Winstrol to give that a shot? Or should we 
> accept that it might be his time to go. I don't want him to suffer, and I 
> don't want to put him through another round of this if it's inhumane, but I 
> don't want to lose him. Thanks.
>
> Elizabeth McCarty, ASW #36438
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Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 20:37:50 -0500
From: "Ardy Robertson" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
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Hi Ashley,



If it isn?t too late for him the Winstrol is fabulous at helping build up his 
blood. My Tigger?s blood work got so much better the pathologist reran the 
testing process because he couldn?t believe what he was seeing in the results. 
I did lose Tigg but I feel it was because I started the Winstrol too late. 
Tigger had the one week on / one week off of the interferon for about 2 months, 
and his blood declined while on it. But I suppose all cats are different. I 
just wish I had started the Winstrol and Prednisolone along with the Doxy much 
earlier. I too didn?t want him to suffer but I don?t feel he suffered. Whatever 
you decide, you are doing your best for him.



Best of luck to you and Hodor.

Ardy



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