On the baby food, try pumpkin, has fiber and my guys have always liked it when 
they were off their feed.  I drink raw milk, but even that will give them 
diahrea if I give them more than 1 teaspoon.  Maybe mix with pumpkin.


---- Amani Oakley <[email protected]> wrote: 
> You can take your milk and dilute it with warm water and stir it around.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: December-15-16 8:13 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
> 
> Hi Amani. This morning’s urine was also pretty clear. I will pick up some 
> baby food today. She isn’t refusing to eat. She just is really too weak. If I 
> hold her and let her lick it off my hand she does great. Almost a half of a 
> 5.5 oz can already today. She has not vomited. I thought about milk but she 
> has yet to have a bowel movement and I didn’t want to constipate her more. I 
> think I will offer her some at next feeding. I drink whole milk so I think I 
> will pick up some Whiskas today too.
> 
> I was surprised that the vet told me to start the Winstrol again so soon. I 
> thought that was not a good plan.
> 
> Thanks for the input Amani.
> 
> From: Felvtalk 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>  on behalf of Amani Oakley 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Thursday, December 15, 2016 at 7:42 AM
> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
> 
> Sherri
> 
> There isn’t any hurry to get her back on the Winstrol. I would wait. Her 
> haematology numbers give you quite a significant cushion to rely upon. 
> Winstrol likely strains the liver, so you want the liver to rest for a while.
> 
> It sounds like she is better, though. I recommend baby food, which you can 
> syringe feed into her. Keep up the feeding. It is good that the first urine 
> was orange but the next wasn’t. She is hopefully clearing out the bilirubin. 
> I think fluids are important to help with that, too. Have you tried some very 
> diluted milk or some Whiskas milk? That might encourage her to drink some 
> more.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: December-15-16 7:42 AM
> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
> 
> Just a little update for any of you following Bogey’s progress here or others 
> who find these posts helpful.
> 
> First day home from hospital. She of course wasn’t interested in eating. But 
> I would sit with her and she would lick Hill’s L/d and a/d from my finger. 
> She ate over a full can total. Every hour or so I gave her about a 
> tablespoon. Alternating between the two. I also am giving her water and a  
> few drops of Pedialite each time. The first time she urinated it was very 
> orange about 2 pm. She didn’t urinate again until last night around 10 and 
> was clear. She actually went to her water dish last night and took a couple 
> of laps. She is still weak and wobbly. But she know where things are. Still 
> seems out of it though. I doubt that she slept at all while in the hospital 
> so I am just letting her rest. She is curled up on a bean bag chair right now 
> with a heating pad on her.
> 
> She isn’t suffering or getting worse.
> 
> I have yet to start her back on the Winstrol but may do that today if the 
> jaundice continues to show improvement. Might make her feel stronger.
> 
> Thanks for reading.
> 
> Sherri
> 
> From: Felvtalk 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
>  on behalf of Amani Oakley 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Reply-To: <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 at 9:21 PM
> To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Update on Bogey My FELV + Cat
> 
> Sherri
> 
> The yellow discolouration takes a bit of time to ebb away. The more important 
> indicator of how she is doing is that she is more steady on her feet and has 
> an interest in eating. She has clearly improved, so don’t let the yellow 
> colour concern you. It should fade away on its own.
> 
> After tonight, if she is as good as you saw her today, I would take her home. 
> She needs to eat, and needs to be nudged to eat as much as possible. That 
> will help get rid of some of the bilirubin as some of it is excreted in 
> feces. It will also improve her outlook on life if she is eating again.
> 
> Later on, you can follow up on the glucose. Glucose doesn’t just rise above 
> the normal reference range with diabetes. Animals and people will have an 
> elevated glucose when the body is in crisis or in pain. Retest her at a time 
> when she is feeling better. For the potassium (which is the “K” number) it is 
> just barely low. I would not leave her at the vet’s or give her more fluids 
> just for that.
> 
> However, I would ask for her bloodwork to be retested after the fluids. 
> Ideally, you should start to see the bilirubin, GGT and ALT dropping. The 
> potassium may also now be in the reference range, and let’s see what the 
> glucose looks like.
> 
> One key thing I was taught was that you treat the patient, not the numbers. I 
> follow the lab numbers closely, but the more important thing, is how is she 
> doing. She is improving and hopefully will continue to do so. I think that a 
> retest of her blood work should confirm that.
> 
> Take her home as soon as possible and give her some TLC!
> 
> Was the can of salmon a can of catfood salmon or human food salmon? If 
> catfood, I understand that there have been incidents of liver failure because 
> of an additive/preservative called ethoxyquin which is added to fish or fish 
> meal. (Fish meal can also sometimes be contaminated with mycotoxins which 
> might also have a deleterious effect on the liver.) That might also explain 
> why the jaundice seemed to come on so suddenly after ingestion. Do a Google 
> search on the brand name and see if others have reported a problem.
> 
> Amani
> 
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