Thank you! On Feb 26, 2018 1:35 PM, "Amani Oakley" <[email protected]> wrote:
> No – it depends on the parasite load. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf > Of *Pam Doore > *Sent:* February-26-18 5:49 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea... > > > > Amani, will roundworms aways show up in a fecal? > > > ~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~ > > > *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, > Christ beneath me, Christ above me. **—** St. Patrick* > > > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Bob > > Just as a long shot, consider using Revolution again. I guess I should > have remembered this, but there is an immature phase of round worms, which > move through the tissues (sometimes causing eye problems) and into the > lungs. During the migration of the immature phase, they move into the > lungs and causing the cat to cough harshly in order to cough up the > immature phase, which then gets swallowed down, ending up back in the > intestines all over again. Using Revolution will kill the mature roundworms > in the intestines, but not the immature phase. Thus, one needs to use the > Revolution for several months in order to catch all the worms in their > various phases. Doxycyline has some negative effect on the immature phase, > so using both might also assist. > > I figured out this issue recently when a cat I had had for more than a > year, was really losing weight, had very minimal hair growth (sort of > stubby hair), and kept vomiting up her food. One day, while cleaning up the > vomit, I noticed an adult round worm in the vomit. I couldn’t figure out > how my cat would have had worms because I had deflee-ed her when she was > just a tiny kitten, and treated her with the kitten Revolution. She was > strictly an indoor cat, as all mine are, so there was no source I could > figure out for a roundworm infection. I checked it out online, and finally > understood that she still had a roundworm infection from kittenhood. Her > sister also had lackluster hair growth. I treated both with Revolution and > saw an immediate improvement with weight gain and hair growth. However, > unfortunately, her sister got pregnant, and I also found out that the > immature stage of the roundworm gets passed down to kittens through > mother's milk - which must have been how both of them got it in the first > place since I picked them up when they were only a few days old. Anyway, > the rest of the mystery was solved because the sister got very sick while > nursing the kittens - running nose, coughing, temperature, (and again, I > couldn’t figure out how that could be, given that she wasn’t exposed to any > new cats). The kittens also got sick, and had this TERRIBLE hacking cough > and really badly infected eyes which NO topical medication would help, and > no antibiotic helped UNTIL I tried the Doxycycline. > > Everything fell into place for me when I saw the worm in my cat's vomit, > and did a bit of research. > > So, if possible, try Revolution again, and try some Doxycycline and see if > that leads to any improvement. > > Amani > > -----Original Message----- > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > ROBERT CHAPEL > Sent: February-24-18 12:22 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Diarrhea... > > Thank you pam,sandy ,ardy and all who weighed. in. on. the “ runs”.... > I’m leaning toward this being an autoimmune issue and will ask the > shelter to have Tommy back to the vet for a better eval... Original > recommendation was to use an antibiotic more common in livestock and > aviaries ( tylosin) which was sound but did not take into account that my > boy won’t eat his food with this foul tasting abx..... I’m reintroducing > it..now.. but VERY slowly.... After a couple of weeks if I can’t get him to > a full dose it’s time to change course.... He’s 15 years old and he can’t > afford to lose weight or get dehydrated.... He’s a foster who was “ > supposed” to be back with his owner well before now....but.... it looks to > me that these guys are going to be a lifespan placement.... > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 10:21 PM, [email protected] > wrote: > > > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Pam Doore) > > 2. Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 (Ardy Robertson) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:49:03 -0500 > > From: Pam Doore To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > Message-ID: > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > *Hi Bob and all, * > > > > > > *I don't realize I am not seeing posts until someone else mentions > > about not seeing posts.* > > > > > > *I lost my Ally three days after Christmas. A little less than a > > month > > later I was notified by a parent of one of my students about a > > 6+-year-old > > boy who was Fiv+ and FelV+; owner died and was at a shelter in the > > southern > > tier of NY. He is doing well and his name is also Tommy. I took > > home a > > FIV+ older cat (vet through FIV was flaring and I wanted him to have a > > home > > and lots of love for whatever time he has. He is playing, eating, and > > giving lots of love and demanding lots of love! He is living in my > > Master > > suit while he is being vaccinated against FelV+ and can be with his > > Sunny > > and Tommy who are super eager to meet him :). * > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:37 PM, ROBERT CHAPEL wrote: > > > >> Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided > >> to > >> unsubscribe.... > >> > >> Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few > >> months > >> ??? I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any FELV+ > >> for a > >> few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting, > >> mercifully, so > >> far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest and cutest of > >> the > >> bunch) quessing the others had been older when they had their > >> exposure.... > >> Think we might already have a place that will give a home to this > >> cutie.... > >> unfortunately not a family... but better than having the little guy > >> in > >> isolation here at our shelter..... He needs company.... > >> > >> Hope all is well with your Kitties.... my two old guys are doing > >> pretty > >> well..... Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new lease on > >> life..... He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER.... Jerry is > >> still > >> suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking for ways to > >> control > >> it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have failed so far..... > >> > >> Bob in Warwick NY > >> > >> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 21:21:24 -0600 > > From: "Ardy Robertson" To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, > > Vol 44, Issue 1 > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > > Hi Bob, > > > > If all else has failed to cure Jerry's diarrhea, you might try an > > extremely old remedy that was used on humans back in the 1930's. They > > used a cast iron frying pan and burned flour in it. I don't think they > > used any oil of any kind - just the flour and possibly a small amount > > of water, and just stir it until it browns and sort of burns. Then get > > him to eat a small amount. Apparently this was given to babies who had > > life-threatening diarrhea when nothing else worked. > > > > I suppose though, if you can't get it stopped, it might be something > > like a parasite causing it? Not sure....just trying to help ? > > > > > > Ardy > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > > Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 8:37 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > > > > > Odd that we are getting mail from Dec simply because someone decided > > to unsubscribe.... > > > > > > Presuming there has not been much activity in the list for a few > > months ??? I am happy to report that my shelter had not received any > > FELV+ for a few months and just recently received 6... upon retesting, > > mercifully, so far only one has come up positive ( sadly the youngest > > and cutest of the bunch) quessing the others had been older when they > > had their exposure.... Think we might already have a place that will > > give a home to this cutie.... unfortunately not a family... but better > > than having the little guy in isolation here at our shelter..... He > > needs company.... > > > > > > Hope all is well with your Kitties.... my two old guys are doing > > pretty well..... Tommy had 5 teeth extracted and it gave him a new > > lease on life..... He's MUCH more active and happy and FATTER.... > > Jerry is still suffering his chronic diarrhea and we are still looking > > for ways to control it ( all the usual NON medicine interventions have > > failed so far..... > > > > > > Bob in Warwick NY > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 06:28 PM, > > [email protected] > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> > > > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > > >> > > > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >> > > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> > > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> > > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > > >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Today's Topics: > > > >> > > > >> 1. Re: FIV (ROBERT CHAPEL) > > > >> 2. Re: FIV (Amani Oakley) > > > >> 3. Re: FIV (Lorrie) > > > >> 4. Re: FIV ( [email protected]) > > > >> 5. Merry Christmas & Happy Anniversary wishes (Jennifer Olson) > > > >> 6. Unsubscribe me please ( [email protected]) > > > >> 7. not receiving e-mails (Sandy) > > > >> 8. Re: not receiving e-mails (Lorrie) > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> > > > >> Message: 1 > > > >> Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 21:48:56 -0500 (EST) > > > >> From: ROBERT CHAPEL To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV > > > >> Message-ID: < [email protected]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no > > > >> > > > >> I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've > > > >> gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of > > > >> messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before. > > > >> Has there been other information going back and forth for the past > > > >> couple of weeks?? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our > > > >> experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where > >> near > > > >> as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential > > > >> adopters... > > > >> Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't > > > >> even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the > > > >> beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and > > > >> have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of > >> FIV's > > > >> ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any > > > >> others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)... > > > >> but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....? > > > >> Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an > > > >> FIV over an FeLV Kitty > > > >> QUESTION: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> ?--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> - > > > >>> > > > >>> Message: 1 > > > >>> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000 > > > >>> From: Amani Oakley To: " [email protected]" Subject: Re: > > > >>> [Felvtalk] Question > > > >>> Message-ID: > > > >>> > > > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >>> > > > >>> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for > > > >>> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary > > > >>> arsenal to combat it. > > > >>> > > > >>> Amani > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 2 > > > >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 04:07:39 +0000 > > > >> From: Amani Oakley To: " [email protected]" Subject: Re: > > > >> [Felvtalk] FIV > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >> > > > >> Hi Bob > > > >> > > > >> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I > > > >> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I haven't > > > >> received any emails in weeks. > > > >> > > > >> Amani > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Felvtalk [ mailto:[email protected]] On > >> Behalf > > > >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL > > > >> Sent: December-26-17 9:49 PM > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV > > > >> > > > >> I am again perplexed at the mail delivery for this group....? I've > > > >> gotten nothing for a few weeks and just now THIS digest of > > > >> messages..ALL of which I have received multiple times before. > > > >> Has there been other information going back and forth for the past > > > >> couple of weeks?? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> HOWEVER:? In relation to FIV...?? it has clearly NOT been our > > > >> experience at the shelter where I volunteer that FIV is any where > >> near > > > >> as deadly as FELV and we don't ever suggest that it is to potential > > > >> adopters... > > > >> Our FIV'S range in age from 1 year to 8 yrs plus and oftentimes don't > > > >> even get the URI that runs through the entire menagerie at the > > > >> beginning of Winter.... I've been volunteering there for 4 years and > > > >> have seen only one of our FIV's die and that from the scourge of > >> FIV's > > > >> ( Feline Infectious Peritonitis) thankfully it did not claim any > > > >> others ( until months later when a couple of FeLV residents died)... > > > >> but, in general, our FIV's have remained quite healthy....? > > > >> Personally, I would be FAR more confident of the future adopting an > > > >> FIV over an FeLV Kitty > > > >> QUESTION: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> ?--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >> - > > > >>> > > > >>> Message: 1 > > > >>> Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 18:25:58 +0000 > > > >>> From: Amani Oakley To: " [email protected]" Subject: Re: > > > >>> [Felvtalk] Question > > > >>> Message-ID: > > > >>> > > > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >>> > > > >>> Yes Ardy. FIV is also a death sentence, more often than not, for > > > >>> afflicted cats. And again, there is very little in the veterinary > > > >>> arsenal to combat it. > > > >>> > > > >>> Amani > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 3 > > > >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:33:47 -0500 > > > >> From: Lorrie To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV > > > >> Message-ID: < [email protected]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago. > > > >> I hope this means all our cats are doing well. > > > >> > > > >> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV. > > > >> > > > >> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the > >> average > > > >> person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of FIV. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Lorrie > > > >> > > > >> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote: > > > >>> Hi Bob > > > >>> > > > >>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I > > > >>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I > >>> haven't > > > >>> received any emails in weeks. > > > >>> > > > >>> Amani > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 4 > > > >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 8:41:54 -0600 > > > >> From: To: [email protected], [email protected] > > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIV > > > >> Message-ID: < 20171227094154.PXG7R.4017.root@pamxwww01-z01> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > >> > > > >> tHE ONLY PROBLEM MY GUYS HAVE IS BOREDOM. iT HAS BEEN COLD, SNOWY > >> AND > > > >> WINDY. HARLEY WHO USUALLY GOES OUT NO MATTER WHAT JUST GOES TO THE > > > >> DOOR, THE WIND HITS HIM AND HE BACKS UP. WE HAVE LOTS OF AMAZON > > > >> BOXES, TUNNELS AND A LIGHT TO CHASE. > > > >> > > > >> ---- Lorrie wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I've not seen any posts for weeks, until a few days ago. > > > >>> I hope this means all our cats are doing well. > > > >>> > > > >>> BTW - FIV is not at all as dangerous a FelV. > > > >>> > > > >>> I hope more people adopt these FIV cats, but unfortunately the > > > >>> average person, who is not well informed, is is just as afraid of > > > >>> FIV. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> Lorrie > > > >>> > > > >>> On 12-27, Amani Oakley wrote: > > > >>>> Hi Bob > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I have only seen two other posts this past week, other than one I > > > >>>> posted in reply to one of those two posts. Other than that, I > > > >>>> haven't received any emails in weeks. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Amani > > > >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > > > >>> [email protected] > > > >>> > > > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > > > >>> g > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 5 > > > >> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:04:15 -0600 > > > >> From: Jennifer Olson To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Merry Christmas & Happy Anniversary wishes > > > >> Message-ID: > > > >> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >> > > > >> December 22nd marked the beginning of our 2nd yr with Figaro in our > > > >> lives. > > > >> He is healthy, but a bit heavy- the kind of weight gain common after > > > >> being neutered. Have yet to get him integrated into the clan, so each > > > >> of us "bipedals" lavish Figaro with various kinds of attention... of > > > >> course I'M the "Mama" so Figaro and I do lots of grooming & cuddling! > > > >> Much admiration goes out to all of you, whose loving strength > >> enriches > > > >> the lives of precious fur-babies, for as long as we are able! > > > >> Jen > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > >> scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 6 > > > >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 21:31:09 +0000 > > > >> From: [email protected] > > > >> To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] Unsubscribe me please > > > >> Message-ID: < [email protected]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > >> > > > >> Please unsubscribe me. Thank you. > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > >> scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 7 > > > >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:01:55 -0500 (EST) > > > >> From: Sandy To: [email protected] > > > >> Subject: [Felvtalk] not receiving e-mails > > > >> Message-ID: < [email protected]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > >> > > > >> Looks like I have not received any e-mail contact since November > >> 2017. > > > >> > > > >> Sandy W > > > >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > >> scrubbed... > > > >> URL: > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Message: 8 > > > >> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 18:28:44 -0500 > > > >> From: Lorrie To: Sandy , [email protected] > > > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] not receiving e-mails > > > >> Message-ID: < [email protected]> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > >> > > > >> Hi Sandy, I noticed the total lack of messages...... Hopefully this > > > >> means none of us are having any problems with our cats at this time. > > > >> > > > >> Lorrie > > > >> > > > >> On 02-21, Sandy wrote: > > > >>> Looks like I have not received any e-mail contact since November > > > >>> 2017. > > > >>> > > > >>> Sandy W > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > > > >>> [email protected] > > > >>> > > > >>> > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or > > > >>> g > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> Subject: Digest Footer > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------ > > > >> > > > >> End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 1 > > > >> *************************************** > > > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 44, Issue 3 > > *************************************** > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >
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