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~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~~@~~~~ *Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me. — **St. Patrick* On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 8:41 AM Lorraine Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you. I’ve shared your info with my cousin. > > > > - Lorraine > > > > "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the > things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf > Of *Amani Oakley > *Sent:* Thursday, February 21, 2019 10:18 PM > *To:* Sandra Wachtstetter; [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Baby's intro > > > > Boy I t blab a lot, don’t I? > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sandra > Wachtstetter > *Sent:* February 21, 2019 9:54 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Baby's intro > > > > Lorraine - I am part of the group and have the following into - from Amani > - so you can see a bit more > > *From:* Amani Oakley > *Sent:* June-10-18 3:22 PM > *To:* '[email protected]' > *Subject:* RE: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 47, Issue 6 > > What a very sad story about your blind cat. I understand your heart break. > I too have placed cats into what I thought were excellent homes, only to > have a sad, and an unnecessarily tragic outcome. I have probably adopted > out close to 400 cats in the time my husband and I have been rescuing cats. > Thankfully, most of the time, people are just really happy to return a cat > to me if things aren’t working out, but I know only too well that once out > of my hands, you’re at the mercy of what someone else thinks is the right > thing to do. > > Your email to FeLV talk goes out to everyone on the list at the same time. > I will often answer regarding FeLV because I was lucky enough to have > stumbled on a medication protocol (which I was calling Zander’s protocol) > which treated my Zander’s FeLV when EVERYTHING else had failed. *I used > to be a medical lab technologist, so lab results are key to me.* When > trying Zander on the various medications that were suggested as assisting > with FeLV, I got weekly bloodwork done and would study the results to see > which direction his bloodwork was going. Nothing worked at all (Interferon, > LTCI, combo of prednisone/Doxy) and I kept him alive with several blood > transfusions. When that was no longer an option because he had had a > reaction during his last blood transfusion and the next one would kill him, > I rummaged around in my drawer of cat meds, and had nothing else at all to > try but figured what the hell and tried him on Winstrol (Stanazalol) which > I thought might at least keep him eating and maybe keep him alive a bit > longer. To my complete and utter amazement and disbelief, after just a few > days on Winstrol, his ivory white gums and inner ears (signs of his > profound anemia) started showing a slight pinkish blush. The next blood > work (a few days later) showed the first uptick in hematocrit that I had > seen with him since the FeLV crisis had begun, which was not brought on by > the artificial increase in red cells from his transfusions. > > I kept him on the combination of prednisone/doxycycline/winstrol for more > than a year, while his hematocrit climbed from 10 and back into the normal > reference range of 25 to 45. Every time I tried to stop or reduce the > dosage of winstrol, his blood results would show an immediate drop in red > cells and hematocrit, so even though his liver enzymes went way up (the > reason Winstrol had fallen out of favour with the vets), I really had no > choice but to continue since the vets had nothing else to offer me and the > alternative was he was going to die from the FeLV infection. He recovered > fully, looked marvelous and amazing, ate well, and his liver enzymes went > right back to normal once I discontinued the Winstrol – something like 10 > months later. > > No one seemed to know this combination, and the vets I spoke with seemed > wary or suspicious that this combination would indeed be helpful in FeLV > (except mine – who had of course seen the weekly blood work showing a slow > and steady rise in red cells and ultimately, in white cells and platelets, > until his entire hematological profile looked perfectly fine). At the time, > I was understandably extremely excited by the effects of the Winstrol and I > believe that the Winstrol was able to cause the production of new bone > marrow cells (something it has been found to do in osteoporotic women) and > thus, new cells which could produce the red cells. *However, I now also > think that the combination worked because the Doxycycline was able to > retard or slow down the viral replication, to allow the red cell production > to move ahead with less risk that the FeLV would attack the new bone marrow > cells. I have been told that the prednisone helps protect the liver from > the Winstrol, but I also think that it’s anti-inflammatory properties > helped in areas like intestinal inflammation (Zander had lots of trouble > eating and keeping the food down). So, I think maybe I by accident stumbled > on this combination but was able to understand what might be happening and > why it might have worked, because of my scientific/medical training.* > > Zander lived another 7 years and died from a heart condition which I > wondered at the time if it was related, and it might have been, but it > probably was that the virus had done a fair amount of damage to certain > organs before I was able to get it under control. We loved Zander to a > crazy extent, and I wanted him with us for longer than 7 years but given > that the vets were telling us there was no hope when he was only six months > old, I guess I must just be grateful that we had him for so much longer > than that. > > Amani > > On February 21, 2019 at 9:40 PM Amani Oakley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Lorraine > > > > What I have suggested to many in this group, for treatment of FeLV, is the > following combination of medications: > > > > Winstrol (Stanazolol) – 1 mg twice a day > > Doxycycline – 1/5 to ¼ tablet (100 mg) twice a day > > Prednisolone – ½ 5 mg tablet, twice a day > > If there are problems with the intestines (vomiting, constipation, slow > moving stools, stools of large diameters, all of which might be indicative > of the effect of the virus on the intestines) you can try adding ¼ tablet > of apometocloprimide. > > If the haematocrit level is REALLY REALLY low – like below 5-8, you might > consider starting the Winstrol at 2 mg twice a day for a week, to try and > kickstart things quickly, but given that there is going to be a likely > increase in liver enzymes with the use of Winstrol, recognize that this > might also increase the liver enzymes faster. > > > > Lorraine, you will very likely encounter great resistance or skepticism > regarding the use of the Winstrol. It is an anabolic steroid, associated > with some doping scandals in professional athletics, so it has a bad rap in > the sports world. I haven’t yet figures out why this should matter in the > animal world, especially since NOTHING else works to turn back on the red > cell production in FeLV, but I am just warning you that you may get an > unexpected reaction from the vet. If not, terrific – carry on. If you do, > many people in this online group have managed to procure it themselves. > > I also suggest blood work up front, so you can gauge how well the Winstrol > is working to address the anemia. The other thing to resist, however, is > that Winstrol may well bump up liver enzymes – sometimes dramatically. Vets > will get alarmed at this and will often tell you to discontinue the > Winstrol, but I would resist this. The liver enzymes almost always go back > to normal once the Winstrol is discontinued, with no lasting harm to the > liver, and there is really nothing else to use for this disease. > > How long you need to stay on this regimen will depend on the lab results. > Once the anemia is resolved (haematocrit, haemoglobin and reticulocytes > back to normal) you may need to continue with the Winstrol for a more time. > My experience was that every time I wanted to wean my cat off the Winstrol, > his haematocrit would immediately drop. I kept him on the Winstrol until I > didn’t see a drop in haematocrit when I began to wean him off. My cat’s > results were horrible, before starting the Winstrol. (His haematocrit was > FIVE, with ZERO percent reticulocytes, and I had given him several blood > transfusions, which obviously were only a temporary fix.) > > I hope this helps. > > Amani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Felvtalk <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Lorraine > Johnston > *Sent:* February 21, 2019 7:23 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Baby's intro > > > > Hello, > > I’m a new member. While caring for my cousin’s cat Baby here in my home > during his 2-week vacation in Mexico, we had bloodwork done ahead of the > dental cleaning that my husband and I agreed to have done for her. She > turned up positive for FeLeuk on ELISA, IFA, and PCR--the triple whammy. > She’s already slightly anemic. > > Baby was first vaccinated against FeLV in Jan. 2018 before her first-ever > stay with us. But the booster due at week 3-4 was missed. This was > followed by a bite puncture in Dec. 2018. So I suspect that first vaccine > was worn off by the time of the bite. > > Baby is 11 and in otherwise good health, so I hope there’s a good chance > she’ll still live her “normal span” --and perhaps even die of something > unrelated. But the anemia is not a good sign, I’m told. > > I am putting together information for my cousin to try to take the edge > off of the terrible shock this will give him. I’m of course including > cautions about keeping her indoors, etc., and following up on any symptoms, > etc. I hope to put off telling him until just before he flies back to the > US. > > I suspect my cousin would prefer treatments that are oral as opposed to > IV. But his wife is trained as a nurse, so perhaps they would be willing to > try difficult-to-administer treatments. I’m not sure how much room their > budget has for expensive, imported treatments like feline interferon omega. > > On general principles: in our home, Baby has been kept entirely separate > from our own six cats, who are vaccinated against FeLV except for one > little guy who has FIV whom we avoid over-vaccinating. We have always > hand-washed after handling Baby or her dishes, even prior to this > diagnostic info. > > I think I’ve drawn the complete picture, but please ask if I’ve left out > something important. > > FWIW, I have a degree in biology and am a medical writer, so I don’t scare > easy, and I understand big words...mostly. (-: > > > > - Lorraine > > > > "Sometimes it is the people no one can imagine anything of who do the > things no one can imagine." - Alan Turing > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >
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