But Pam – even without symptoms, if a cat is FeLV+ - and particularly if it’s a 
kitten, then every vet knows that prognosis is grim. Why wait to treat? In the 
majority of cases, a cat will not come through a feline leukemia infection. If 
the cat is an adult, then I agree that the infection may not be active. Many 
adult cats who contract feline leukemia, will not develop the infection but may 
undergo a subclinical course and remain seroconverted. But if it’s a kitten, 
this is when they’re vulnerable to a feline leukemia infection and unlikely to 
survive.

Amani

From: Felvtalk <felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> On Behalf Of Pam Doore
Sent: November 15, 2019 8:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] another felv kitten - Brasil

Thank you.  I have a great relationship with our vets but I am not sure I could 
get them to do that but will have the discussion the next time I have a felv+.

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Christ beside me, Christ before me, Christ behind me, Christ within me, Christ 
beneath me, Christ above me. — St. Patrick


On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 8:03 PM Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
First, my vet has a lot of confidence in me and I have been right so many 
times, she really doesn’t question me anymore. Unfortunately, as my last email 
stated, I can no longer get the Winstrol from my vets because the compounding 
pharmacy which supplies the vets, no longer is carrying it. I now order it 
online, but it is in human strength.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
<felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
 On Behalf Of Pam Doore
Sent: November 15, 2019 6:25 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] another felv kitten - Brasil

Amani, How do you get your vet to prescribe medication for a pet that has no 
outward symptoms to be treating?

-Pam

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019, 3:27 PM Amani Oakley 
<aoak...@oakleylegal.com<mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote:
Patricia – I speak just for myself, based on my experience with my FeLV kitten. 
I personally would not wait. If I ever had the chance to do it all again, I 
would have started my kitten on treatment for FeLV well before he had his 
crash, months after we learned he was FeLV positive.

This virus is not just sitting quietly. It is doing damage, even if we can’t 
see immediately see it. The cat’s system compensates and compensates and 
compensates until a tipping point is reached and the cat has a catastrophic 
event. This is when we run to the vets, get blood work done which shows 
horrible results, and all sorts of heroic efforts (blood transfusions, 
experimental treatments, etc.) are then hysterically initiated. Many many 
times, it is too late, and no matter what we do, we can’t drag these tiny 
little angels back from the brink.

In my cat’s case, even though I was able to drag him back from the abyss, the 
virus nonetheless had done a lot of damage to his body. He ended up dying at a 
very young 7 years of age. We loved him so much, and we got six more years with 
him, but it was nowhere near enough. He died, ultimately, from a terribly 
scarred heart. We don’t know for sure, of course, but it is likely that the 
virus was able to damage his heart, before we were able to defeat the virus, 
much damage had been done to his body.

If it were me, I would start your kitten on Winstrol/Prednisone/Doxycycline 
even if there are no symptoms. I would not wait for the shoe to drop. I would 
not bet on the virus not causing a problem.

Amani

From: Felvtalk 
<felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>>
 On Behalf Of Patricia Oliveira
Sent: November 14, 2019 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Subject: [Felvtalk] another felv kitten - Brasil


Hello!

Here I am again with another felv kitten rescued.

Fortunately, this time it's not a sick kitten. We test all rescued kittens and 
this one tested positive for felv.

I was searching archives but i didn´t find anything for asymptomatic kittens. 
Do you have any suggestions?

He is about 5 or 6 months, was spayed some weeks ago, his weight is increasing, 
good coat, active and playing. He had a scratching neck injury but is already 
much better.

Blood work showed eosinophilia (because of neck inflamed skin maybe?), 
everything else normal.

We will test him again in few weeks. Any advice until then?

Thank you very much!


Patrícia
Santos/SP/Brazil
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