Bonnie,

I agree with Gloria maybe a homepathic vet or holistic.  Or maybe
try another vet?

Sounds like the crying is from the pain of the crystals. Some cats
cry when they have crystals. Solid Gold has a cranberry powder 
that helps with crystals. I use it on one cat that has crystals.

I am sorry about Jezebel. Sending healing vibes in the meantime.

Carla







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From:                   "Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:                Re: Need Idea's for Jezebel
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> I don't recall how old you said she was.  I'd take her off any fish
> food, and off any dry, and start her on a good quality (Wellness, etc)
> wet food of home made food with no additives, and make SURE she's
> pooping and peeing regularly - daily.  If not, I'd give her something
> for that or get her off to a vet. If she's older, over 10, I'd give
> her a little Pet Tinic and Vit C.
> 
> Crystals in the urine is a big deal, of course, and there are special
> diets for that, that the vet may have mentioned.
> 
> I'd probably take her to another vet, cat vet if possible or holistic
> vet, and just get another perspective - not that those vets didn't do
> well, just get another take on it.
> 
> Wish I had more to offer!  Prayers going out forJezebel.
> 
> Gloria
> 
> At 12:12 AM 6/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >My brother, Marty's green-eyed tortie cat Jezebel
> >is very ill and in a lot of pain. When he first found her
> >as a tiny kitten, she tested a faint positive. He asked
> >me to ask the list what they thought about her condition.
> >Jez has been at two different vets this week: her regular vet
> >and had an ultrasound at another's.
> >
> >She has symptoms consistent with an urinary tract infection,
> >which she had once before. Marty found her straining in the
> >litter box early this week and she didn't want to be touched,
> >which is quite unusual for her. She was found to find crystals
> >in her urine and given fluids and very strong anti-biotics by
> >injection and pills to take home.
> >
> >X-rays at the first vet's showed a  large mass of undigested
> >food in her stomach, which she later passed .
> >
> >Her  ultrasound that showed she doesn't have a mass but
> >the entire length of her intestine is displaced, pushed way
> >over to one side. It could be caused by a tumor,
> >peritonitis (an extreme swelling caused by a virus), or a
> >foreign object, like string. Marty's never known Jezebel
> >to eat a foreign object.  The vets, (a father-son team) who
> >did the ultrasound think that her  intestine appeared to be
> >off to the side because Jezebel has so much fatty tissue.
> >They both  felt her all over and said there is no indication
> >of any masses or tumors in her stomach.
> >
> >However, there were several dark spots in Jez' left kidney
> >which could be cysts, tumors, or infection. They could be
> >"ascending" or moving toward her stomach. Her urinalysis
> >was normal. She does have a temperature. They ran several
> >batteries of tests. Jezebel purred all through the ultrasound
> >and blood draws - The vets said "her behavior was exemplary"
> >
> >The tests  indicated that her kidneys were not concentrating her
> >urine The vets said the count was very low and the feline leukemia
> >might be trying to take over her tissues, and that they hadn't been
> >very successful in preventing that. They said that the heavy doses of
> >antibiotics are to try to get her fever down. They called her high
> >temperature pyrexia.
> >
> >They gave her A/D to take home and some valium to get her to
> >eat, which worked.  Jezebel's regular food is tuna or some other fish
> >Fancy Feast, but she  likes the dry Deli-Cat better. I told my
> >brother to stop with the Fancy Feast fish food!
> >
> >
> >Yesterday, my brother wrote: "the doctors are perplexed. She was
> >diagnosed with either renal cysts or renal lymphosarcoma. We just got
> >back from the vet's where she received her IV - fluid therapy. Her
> >belly is very sore. She does not want to be touched there. The
> >regular vet said along with the lethargy she is showing, that would
> >be signs of the leukemia spreading. However, he said, since she's not
> >throwing up and eating some, that's inconsistent with leukemia.
> >
> >He said if it was a virus, with the strong antibiotics she is
> >getting, that she should be getting better by now. This vet didn't
> >say anything about the cysts, however. She drank a very little milk
> >today, but no water that I saw. She ate quite a bit of her Deli Cat
> >when she came home.  I had to help her get up on the kitty condo. She
> >was too sore to jump up. She's in a lot of pain".
> >
> >The regular vet said  that if she isn't better by Monday, that he
> >recommends exploratory surgery  He said that the surgery and
> >anesthetic could be a problem because of the felk.  But would that
> >explain the dark spots in her kidneys on the ultrasound? He did say
> >that many cats live with cysts on or in their kidneys and do fine.
> >Her red blood cell count is normal and her white  blood cell count
> >slightly high - also inconsistent with leukemia. They said that her
> >urine has crystals in it. Her temperature was 102.5, which he said
> >was above normal and is probably a cause of Jezebel's lethargy and
> >crankiness. She had a protein-creatinine ratio done. I thought the
> >father-son team said it was showed that it was in the low range but
> >then the regular said it was in the normal range
> >
> >My brother wrote to me tonight that "she is moaning in pain.
> >My little baby is in so much pain it makes me cry for her.
> >I think I'm going to let the vet do the surgery and maybe he'll find
> >something. She can't go on this way".
> >
> >I'm sorry this is so long - I'm just repeating my brother's posts
> >second hand. What could it be - it seems like kidney disease. Does
> >any one have any ideas? What can he do for her?
> >
> >Thanks very much,
> >Bonnie in WI
> >
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