On 6/13/16, Ivan Kalvachev <ikalvac...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/13/16, Paul B Mahol <one...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 6/13/16, Ivan Kalvachev <ikalvac...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 6/12/16, Paul B Mahol <one...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> As requested in the IRC meeting I hereby request for the >>>> voting committee to begin voting on whatever to ban Carl >>>> Eugen Hoyos from mailing list, trac and IRC for 4 months, >>>> starting after the voting has finished. >>> >>> I don't remember such thing to have been requested on the IRC meeting. >>> Would you kindly quote the relevant parts of the logs? >> >> It was requested to act because of Carl misbehaviour. >> Logs are available on net. > > I was on the meeting and I checked the published logs > before sending my first mail. > That's why I requested that you QUOTE the relevant part. > > Let me be blunt. Nobody have requested Carl to be banned, > and definitely not from ML, trac, IRC for 4 months. > > Feel free to prove me wrong, by providing the quotes I requested.
Nobody requested explicitly that they want to ban Carl for 4 months, but they all want that his behaviour is punished. > >>> Also, I would like to know on what grounds and >>> on what charges you request that punishment. >> >> On grounds that he was badmouthing others. > > That's way too vague... > > 1. I'd like to see links and quotes of him doing the things you accuse him > of. It was all private. The last one about Derek, which was public, is just top of iceberg. > > 2. I'd like to know why we have to ban him for 4 months exactly? Why > ban him from ML, IRC, Trac, but not git? Then we will ban him from git too. > How did you determined that this punishment is the one that is most > fitting the crimes he has done? By careful examination. > > I can give you a lot of repeated incidents where people have badmouthed > Carl. > Should we ban them all in a similar way? Months and years after the fact? They were not first to do that, they got provoked. > > Also, If we are going to punish somebody, there should be a due > process before that. > Witch hunts are nasty things. > >> Many devs requested punishment. > Did they? Yes, on IRC meeting many requested something about him to be done. > > Many people wanted breaking CoC to have consequences. > But I do not remember anybody requesting Carl to be banned for 4 months. 4 months is very realistic, symbolic amount would not be good for project. > Feel free to prove me wrong, with quotes. If you want quotes, ask Carl to give you all his private emails. _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel
