Am 28.11.2020 um 13:44 schrieb Paul B Mahol:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 1:35 PM Michael Koch <[email protected]>
wrote:

Am 28.11.2020 um 12:57 schrieb Paul B Mahol:
On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 12:41 PM Michael Koch <
[email protected]>
wrote:

Am 27.11.2020 um 20:50 schrieb Paul B Mahol:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 8:24 PM Michael Koch <
[email protected]>
wrote:

Am 27.11.2020 um 19:25 schrieb Paul B Mahol:
On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 7:09 PM Michael Koch <
[email protected]>
wrote:

Hello,

I have a few questions about the asubboost and asupercut filters.

-- In asubboost it's not yet clear how the block diagram of the
filter
looks like. Especially the "decay" and "feedback" options are
unclear.
What's the input of the the delay line? Before or after the low pass
filter? Where does the feedback go to? Before or after the lowpass
filter? I have attached a sketch of a possible block diagram, but
it's
only a wild guess.

This filter just adds delayed sub frequencies set by cut off
frequency
back
to output. Decay sets decay of old sub echo in buffer and feedback
sets
how
much
new sub frequencies are added to the delay buffer.
I did try to reverse engineer the asubboost filter from its output
signal. Is the attached sketch correct?
It seems the "feedback" parameter is unnecessary because it does exactly
the same thing as "wet".

No, your reasoning is invalid.

I do not have time to draw graphs or do consulting for free.
When you swap the values of "wet" and "feedback", the output does always
remain the same.
If you think that I'm wrong, please show an example to prove the opposite.

Make sure that you take into account decay parameter, delay buffer is still
used.

When you swap the values of "wet" and "feedback", the output does always
remain the same, regardless which values you use for "dry", "decay" and "delay".
As can be shown with this example:

set "A=0.4"
set "B=0.7"

ffmpeg -f lavfi -i aevalsrc='0.5*gt(t,0.1)':d=1 -lavfi asplit[a][b];[b]asubboost=dry=0.3:wet=%A%:decay=0.4:feedback=%B%:delay=50[c],[a][c]join,showwaves=draw=full:s=800x300:r=1 -frames 1 -y out1.png

ffmpeg -f lavfi -i aevalsrc='0.5*gt(t,0.1)':d=1 -lavfi asplit[a][b];[b]asubboost=dry=0.3:wet=%B%:decay=0.4:feedback=%A%:delay=50[c],[a][c]join,showwaves=draw=full:s=800x300:r=1 -frames 1 -y out2.png

ffmpeg -i out1.png -i out2.png -lavfi vstack -y out.png


Red is input step signal, green is output step response of the asubboost filter. In the lower half of the output image the "wet" and "feedback" values are swapped.

Michael

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