At 09:53 AM 1/3/06, you wrote:
Nice photo of a Clun Forest at http://www.nationalsheep.org.uk/breeds/clun_forest.htm
And http://www.clun.org.uk/clunsheep.htm

Somehow I always thought the Clun was considered a 'hill breed.' Maybe Mary Gloster know. In a couple of references from the UK, http://british.history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=22845 From a history of Shropshire. "For the most part the upland sheep were either the Clun Forest or the Kerry Hill breed...."

Here is part of an article from our NACFA Blue Book:
The Clun Forest sheep has a very ancient lineage, for it is descended from one of the oldest types of sheep found in England, a distinction it shares with the other Uplands breeds of the Welsh English border, and also with the sheep of the Welsh mountains. The immediate forbearers of the Clun as we know it today were for many years little more than an obscure local type of sheep. Then, at the turn of this century, the Clun began to spread to other parts of England, especially to the eastern lowlands.
I'd be glad to send the entire text file to anyone who is interested in the history.

Same reference, seems to be about Shropshire, "Sheep were mainly Cluns crossed with Down rams; much of their winter was spent on beet tops and kale and the summer on rape and turnips." " On the arable farms, where it was formerly common to keep a resident flock of ewes for crossing with a Down ram to produce fat lambs, the ewes gave way to feeding tegs."

However, whatever the Clun is, upland or down, it is in the US considered a black faced sheep for scrapie purposes, as are apparently all natural colored sheep, because they have black faces.

And I hate this as the Clun does NOT have a black face -- it has a brown face (most often dark brown but can very to lighter milk chocolate browns. (See our Breed Standards at http://www.clunforestsheep.org/page4.html ) While you're at the web site, be sure to read about the Clun Forest fleece. (There, I kept it topic related!) Mary

Hmmmm, wonder what the (USDA) consider Tunis, Calif. Red, or moorit sheep.

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