--- In [email protected], Holly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Turan, what sort of wool did you use, how was it processed, and how 
was 
> it spun?  I'd love to hear more about socks that survived rubber 
boots!
> 
> Holly
> where the weaving meeting was postponed due to near-blizzard 
conditions: 
>   The temp is now 0F and the windchill somewhere around -25.  We 
still 
> have electricity, surprisingly, but lots of water jugs are filled and 
> ready, and the fireplace is 'made' and lots of logs have been brought 
> in, just in case :)
>
I am specifically refering to 5 pairs of socks.  I would wear them in 
sequince all winter when milking and/or outdoors.  When milking I wore 
rubber boots with a felt pad under my foot.  I mended my socks once a 
year, in the fall when I had to prepare for winter.  The back of the 
heel where they would rub the rubber is where holes developed.  Usually 
I would end up knitting a second heel back and that would take care of 
the problem.  I seemed to have two socks each fall needing mending.  I 
did not find that special wools etc made much difference to reinforce 
the heel.  My kids also wear my socks.  We had a moth attack and that 
did in this batch of socks, except one pair that I am wearing right now.

I raise Corriedale crosses.  I used to take my wool to the wool lab for 
testing and the fleeces sort into 3 grades, 54 (most of the fleeces), 
56 (especially the black ones), 50 (ram and Jamba, and no, Ron, my ram 
fleeces never have given smell troubles).  The 50 wool is best sock 
wool though I have no problems with the 54s.  I never used the 56s for 
socks.  Sorry that my mind has never learned the micron count even 
though the lab tryed to teach me to convert.  I also have knit socks 
from Columbia graded 60 (works if you reinforce the heels and toes 
alot), and BL (single ply, were machine washable and dryable with no 
felting, which is odd seeing as the roving had felted some in dyeing.  
maybe it got it out of its system).  

I have tryed out several custom processors.  At the time I was milking 
most was done by Zeilengers and I think one batch at Fantasy Fibers.  I 
did not have trouble with either one ever.  I also combed some fleece, 
usually skirtings, or used a drum carder.  There is a break in one 
batch, but I knew one of the fleeces in that batch was weak.  I was 
curious how it would come out, now I know.  Well, I need to spin it 
with enough twist to hold the short as well as the long.  My DH is 
wandering around in a sweater from that wool, a few pills but not bad.

Most of my roving gets dyed before I spin it, either natural or painted 
or dipped etc etc, what ever hits my fancy.  Sometimes roving will felt 
a little during that.  Nicest red from madder I ever got was roving I 
let boil.  Turned the stove red too where it boiled over.  I need to 
work on my technique there, teehee.  But not all my socks were dyed 
though I think all the custom processed rovings had been.  

These wools were spun with me on automatic, so a medium draw back with 
the twist chasing the long drafting triangle, a fairly woolen technique 
with a semi worsted prep.  For boot socks I prefer 3 ply, usually 
navajo ply.  I have gotten pretty good at finding the thinner spot to 
hide the loops in. I also use 2 ply.  The yarns vary between 12-14 wpi 
and are 7 tpi plyed.  14 wpi is 2 ply, 12 is 3 ply.  The yarns are 
balanced.  I do not measure or count while I spin but I do put a sample 
of what I want hanging on my wheel to look at and fondle.  I knit socks 
that are made with one yarn (I love to do color patterned  socks, but 
not for work boot socks)using size 2 or 3 DPs.

Holly, I think there are unknown variables that weakened your roving.  
Possibly it was a picker that needed adjusting at that one mill.  But 
the data you have provided does not show that specifically, nor does it 
then relate to all mills.  I do wish I knew more about picker 
adjustments etc.  I do agreew ith the premise that doing it ones self 
is more likily to provide wool prepped just how one likes it.

Turan, who has been slogging through deep snow half a mile to the road 
where I leave the car.  Tomorrow I will ski, jeesh, why didn't I think 
of that earlier?

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