At 12:26 pm +0200 5/9/02, Jari Williamsson wrote: >David H. Bailey writes: > >>I can't understand a program which WOULDN'T do things that way -- >>why would anybody layout a page in landscape and then try to print >>it in portrait?
>2-up printing for example. This is a printer driver problem rather than a screen-orientation versus page-orientation problem within the program. I believe it was solved long ago. All of the postscript drivers I've used on the Mac in years allow you to set up a layout for multiple pages per sheet. I believe the PC drivers do as well, but I never have reason to use this with them. Set Page Setup to portrait, set Print>Layout to Pages per sheet: 2, and you have 2-up landscape printing. At 1:48 pm +0200 5/9/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >It's not so much whether portrait of landscape mode are matched, but >whether the application allows you to have an independent page >format from the printers page size. Otherwise Finale's options for >crop marks would be completely useless since these have to be placed >outside the layout page. This is a margin dichotomy rather than an orientation dichotomy. Crop/registration marks are intended to be printed outside the page's user-selected margins. I don't think that anyone would argue that Finale's margins should be defined by the printable margins of the paper. If I want to set a 3" x 5" page on a portrait 8 1/2 x 11 page there should be nothing in the margin assignments of the program that stops me from doing so. The assertion was about the synchronization of page _orientations_. It makes little sense to print crop/registration marks for a portrait page on a landscape page. As an aside, I have used PageMaker for many years and have never had a page layout print in an orientation other than the one I was viewing on the screen. At 8:30 am -0400 5/9/02, David H. Bailey wrote: >As it is, since we are concurrently discussing making Finale more >out-of-the-box user-friendly, if a newbie tries to set things up for >landscape mode in page layout and then prints without realizing that >he really hasn't told the printer anything and the program defaults >to portrait mode in the printer setup, the printout will not be >correct. This problem bit me many times when I was first learning Finale. I spent a lot of time cursing and obsessively checking settings. Changing page _orientation_ in one dialog and not having it reflected in the other (really far away and relatively hidden) dialog really is a situation which will have a new user wanting to punch through his screen and strangle the program. At 4:52 pm +0200 5/9/02, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >3) It would not work to use Finale's Score format to make the >appropriate settings in the printer's page format, since some >printers don't support all page formats you could possibly set. What >will you do if you receive a complete score from someone else set to >A3, but your printer doesn't support A 3? If the necessary change is from Ax to American ratios the only choice would be to reduce-to-fit on the longest dimension and reduce the size of the entire page. Vice-versa on the shortest dimension for American sizes to Ax. What if someone sent you a 6" x 9" page and you wanted to print it out on paper that was 4" x 7" ? I hate to disagree with Jari and Johannes. They have so many more hours with Finale than I do that I feel I must be missing something, but I cannot see any reason why a choice for _page_orientation_ should not be consistently reflected throughout the program. Best wishes, -=-Dennis -- _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
