At 4:34 PM -0600 7/02/02, John Hughes wrote:
>Where I live, there is a local seniors' group who put on a rather large show
>once a year. I will be arranging all the music for a nine piece pit band.
>There will be about forty songs involved.
>
>I wonder if anyone out there has had similar experience with this sort of
>thing. My specific question is: how does one go about obtaining performing
>rights? Is there a method by which rights can be obtained for them all in
>bulk, or will we have to research the individual publishers and apply to
>them all separately? This would be a daunting task.
>
>John Hughes


I did a whole bunch of this type of thing in my youth, about 20 
revues total. Usually, it depends where the show will be. If it is in 
a hall where SOCAN (in the USA it's BMI and ASCAP) licenses are 
bought and paid for, then everything is taken care of. Even if it IS 
in a rec room of a seniors' residence where liscense are not paid 
for, it is not likely that the publishers are going to go after you 
for the $50 or so total that they are missing out on. Strictly by the 
law, your shows fall under Grand Rights (for dramatic works) rather 
than performance rights, but in the real world the publishers don't 
care unless it's a REAL big show, like Bdway or Las Vegas, and they 
think they will be out thousands of bucks. Grand rights are generally 
more expensive and restricted than performance rights, but nobody is 
going to care about your senior's group. I did dozens of 
well-advertised perfromances by local community groups right under 
the noses of the lawyers for these publishers, (in fact, some of the 
lawyers were involved in the show as perfromers and other roles!) and 
no body ever said boo. If you are worried, talk to the nearest ASCAP 
office. Licenses that last a year and cover EVERY performance of 
EVERY work in their library are quite reasonable. I don't remember 
how it is calculated, but I remember a church paying about $50 CDN 
for a year, about 15 years ago.

When I was arranging for these kinds of revues, I worried about 
getting permission to arrange, which I knew from my university 
Business of Music class that I was supposed to obtain. I learned that 
in reality, even the case of HUGE recordings and MONSTER productions, 
permission to arrange is not even an issue, as the publishers want as 
many royalty-earning performances of the work as possible, in any 
arrangement at all, no matter how bad. They WILL, however, look 
askance on you publicly offering for sale competing versions of their 
commercial arrangements, as this takes money out of their pockets.

Christopher
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