Dennis, I think you're a bit confused. As a professional clarinetist in a
large regional orchestra for more than 16 years, I never have heard of an
"Eb Bass Clarinet". The order goes:

Bass (in Bb or A, with or without extended range to written C below middle
C)
Eb Contrabass (or sometimes mistakenly referred to as "Contra-Alto)
BBb Contrabass (again, with or without the extended range)

The Leblanc company did make one lower clarinet for its founder, Vito
Pascucci, but AFAK, there is just one of these, and it wouldn't be available
for anyone else to use.

Perhaps you saw two different BBb contras: The Selmer version, which is made
with a wooden body and looks like a huge bass clarinet, and a Leblanc model,
which is made completely of metal and looks a bit like a metal
contrabassoon.

BTW, Hout is for tenor saxophone, marimba, guitar and piano. Perhaps you are
thinking of some other piece or some other composer? I didn't see anything
in Andriessen's catalog that matched your description.


Ronald M. Krentzman
R&M Music Preparation



> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 5:05 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Eb contra-alto clarinet notation
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>
> At 03:33 PM 10/14/02 -0500, John Howell wrote:
> >Are you saying there's an EEb contrabass even lower?
> >Are you sure?
>
> Big, metal, heavy, and with its own floor peg. I finally saw one in real
> life at a concert at the Stedelijk in Amsterdam about 10 years ago -- it
> was the Louis Andriessen piece "Hout", and it was the Loos
> Ensemble playing
> all low clarinets. Having started my musical misadventures 40 years ago on
> the bass clarinet, I'm always charged when I see groups of low clarinets,
> so I asked the player, who said it was an Eb contrabass. I think I
> understood correctly -- and it sure was bigger than the Bb contrabass next
> to it!
>
> Dennis
>
>
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