At 06:48 AM 3/10/03 -0800, Richard Yates wrote:
>This is giving me some clues. Opening in Cakewalk showed a couple of tracks
>set to pan correctly but the layer two tracks are not. Apparently, in the
>instrument list you must also have 'Expressions' set to the same channel as
>the instrument that you want to pan. But, with a different instrument on
>each layer/channel I cannot set the pan for layer two.
>
>I will look into all this later today and also try David's suggestion about
>using Expression playback instead of the MIDI tool.

I have set up a file to replicate this. As you say, it appears to me that
the controllers, when set via expressions, only affect the layer chosen in
the instrument list expression options. And when set by the Midi tool, the
situation appears to be the same, even if layers are changed between
panning assignments.

Even when a layer's instrument/patch/channel are different, only one layer
is affected by the continuous controllers. The rest are oblivious.

When the file is output as Midi, I can confirm that the layers show up
correctly as separate tracks, but that the pan information only appears
assigned to one track.

Not a terribly good situation if you use Finale for your Midi work.

There may be a solution inside Finale, but I can't find it.

The limited Midi features of Finale are why I use Cakewalk's Sonar for the
Midi production -- after outputting a 'clean' (tracks and volume levels
assigned only) Midi file. Even strictly for rough demo purposes, I'll take
a few extra hours to assign instrumentation, chorusing, positions, levels,
expression, 'humanizing', hall reverb, etc., to the results, and then
master it as if it were an acoustic recording.

No, I'm not starting the Midi debate again! But if you *do* need a usable
demo on a relatively small budget, there are a few tools to add to your
kit-bag after Finale. The goods in my little composer's studio are here:
http://maltedmedia.com/mmpostconcert.html

I recommend a multitracker (Sonar has an easier learning curve than Finale,
that's for sure), a library of soundfonts (many free ones available on line
are quite good, though it's a lot of auditioning to choose them), a
software soundfont player (LiveSynth Pro), some general effects (Sonar
offers many, and I like the Anwida reverb), a VST wrapper (to use the wide
range of VST effects, more numerous than the Windows DX effects), a
soundfile editor (Cool Edit Pro), and mastering software (iZotope Ozone is
excellent).

Dennis




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