On 24 May 2004, at 03:09 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:

On 24 May 2004 at 14:46, Christopher BJ Smith wrote:

Oo, I'll take this one! If I can SEE a tool, and be able to click on
it easily, while seeing the score underneath it, this saves mondo
clicking to un-shade and re-shade the tool palette. If it takes one
click to roll down the window shade, then I have to move the mouse to
the tool, then move the mouse to re-shade again, that's three clicks
and some index movement that I would be able to replace with one click
and little or no mouse movement.

OK, I can see that, but what about getting to the background window? Isn't that less of an issue in a window-shaded pallette than in a transparent one?

No, because it's no harder to windowshade a transparent palette than it is to windowshade an opaque one.


Not system wide. Just in Finale. The pallettes CAN get kind of big,
and eat up a lot of real estate. It could be turned off, too, if it
bugs people.

Well, that's fine, but I don't really have a problem giving up two rows of toolbars for the pallettes at the top of the screen.

That's not how Mac Finale works. All the Mac Finale palettes are floating -- there is no toolbar.


It's how
every application I use implementes toolbars and because of the
aspect ratio of scroll view (which is where I do most of my work),
it's not really a problem to lose the space. Of course, I use the
small icons, since the large ones are too big and distracting (and
butt ugly, to boot).

Most of them are gawdaful, I agree, but I think the OS X-style "globe" palette icons are actually quite nicely done. Are those available in the Windows version?


But it's not a reason to implement transparency as the default dialog
behavior OS-wide, which is how this subject came up.

Actually, most dialogs in OS X are not transparent. The menus are transparent, yes, and the roll-down dialogs (like, for instance, "Mail Not Sent - Save as Draft?" are transparent, but most everything else isn't. Also, the effect has been toned down since OS X 10.0. Anyway, I don't want to quibble about whether cosmetic transparency in interface elements is ever OK -- the point is that, because OS X has transparency available at the OS level, developers can use it for free, and this enables genuinely useful UI features like Office 2004's fading Formatting Palette. If I were using Office XP, I'd want that implemented in my version, too.


- Darcy

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