On 18 Apr 2005 at 17:30, Christopher Smith wrote:

> On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:16 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > On 18 Apr 2005 at 5:31, dhbailey wrote:
> >>
> >> Have you entered any expressions which have been defined for
> >> playback?
> >
> > I don't understand the question.
> 
> If you take the Allegro marking that comes in the default file, there
> is a playback defined for it that is specified as a certain tempo, say
> 110 bpm. This value overrides whatever you set in the Tempo Tool. . . .

Eh, what?

Tempo Tool alterations are not overridden by tempo expressions, 
unless they occur in succession. That is, if in m. 10 you use the 
tempo tool to set a tempo of 110 and in m. 11 you have an expression 
that defines a tempo of 120, m. 11ff. will be at 120.

Which is as it should be, no?

The only reason I use the tempo tool is for defining ritards and 
agogics (most commonly the little lift before the recapitulation). In 
the instance that drove me crazy, I was trying to arrange playback of 
a section marked "calando," which in the context of the particular 
piece clearly means *only* a "dying away" in tempo (as a dynamic 
"dying away" is explicitly marked already).

In any event, none of this confuses me in the slightest. The pieces 
where I've used the tempo tool have a tempo marking at the head of 
the movement, and tempo tool alterations throughout the movement 
(with no further tempo expressions), and they work just fine.

> . . . I
> don't remember any more where to find it in 2003, as it changed in
> 2004, but you should be able to find it in the expression definition
> dialogue box.
> 
> If you have duplicated your Allegro marking (or used it, for that
> matter) and edited it to create a new expression, the new expression
> inherits the SAME playback that the original expression had. So if the
> new expression reads "Vivace" but is defined to change the tempo to
> 110 bpm, you are going to experience a tempo change at that measure
> that you will not be able to change with the Tempo Tool.

Of course I can change it with the tempo tool in that same measure 
with the Tempo Tool -- I just have to define it to take effect 
somewhere in the measure *following* where the tempo expression is 
taking effect.

Tempo expressions do not confuse me. I know how they are used and 
where they are used, and they are *not* causing the problem. The 
passages that aren't changing tempo are 100s of measures past the 
nearest tempo expression.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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