But as Christopher pointed out, I think this is normal pre-2k5 behavior even
with normal copy/paste operations.  Even from within the same file.  I'm
still making an arduous switch OS X an Fin 2005, so I can't really comment
on the new copy behavior.

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J.D. Thomas
ThomaStudios
West Linn  OR

http://www.thomastudios.com
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All those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand.


on 4/26/05 7:34 AM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> JD,
> 
> I have never run Mass Copy on this document, nor copied anything from
> any other document.
> 
> - Darcy
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Brooklyn, NY
> 
> 
> On 26 Apr 2005, at 10:09 AM, JD wrote:
> 
>> Darcy,
>> 
>> I found this happened to me while assembling individual files into one
>> score.  The main nemesis for me was Robert's Mass Copy plugin.  When I
>> selected a range of source measures, and then simply copied it into the
>> target file, everything was replaced EXCEPT any measure attached Smart
>> Shapes.  It left duplicates exactly as you describe.  The workaround
>> was
>> pretty easy.  Before pasting in with the plugin, I used the Clear
>> button in
>> the plugin or just cleared the target measures out before pasting.
>> Problem
>> eliminated.  And QuicKeys made the whole process mindless.
>> 
>> I was working in FinMac 2K3 under OS 9 when I encountered this problem.
>> 
>> on 4/26/05 6:12 AM, Darcy James Argue at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>> I've posted on this topic before, but to review:
>>> 
>>> I've found that many of my old scores which have been converted from
>>> earlier versions of Finale have developed duplicate hairpins.  In
>>> other
>>> words, there are two identical smart shape hairpins lying directly on
>>> top of each other.  (Most of the time I don't even notice, since I
>>> almost always use the TGTools shortcuts to move hairpins, instead of
>>> dragging them.)
>>> 
>>> When I first brought this up, some people suggested it might be the
>>> fault of the new copying anomalies introduced in Fin2k5.  I have to
>>> admit, most of those have not bothered me, mainly because I almost
>>> never use "Copy Everything," and I use note expressions (not measure
>>> expressions) for virtually everything except rehearsal letters and
>>> tempo indications, etc.  But apparently some of the copying weirdness
>>> in Fin2k5 affects smart shapes as well.  Okay, I can understand that
>>> when copying hairpins from one staff to the ones below, some
>>> duplication might occur.  Fine.
>>> 
>>> But now I find myself looking at a piece where I *know* for a fact
>>> I've
>>> never copied the hairpins in the sop. sax solo part to any other part.
>>> And yet, almost all of the hairpins in that part have been duplicated.
>>> Has anyone else seen this?
>>> 
>>> The other thing is that there are never more than two hairpins.  I
>>> would expect, if there were some kind of copying anomaly that caused
>>> hairpins to spawn clones, they would just keep piling up, but they
>>> don't.  When the hairpins have been duped, there's always just two of
>>> them, no more.
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to pinpoint this behavior a little better so I can file a
>>> report with Coda.  Has anyone else seen their hairpins duplicated like
>>> this?  If so, under what circumstances?

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