Most ingenious indeed! I like it! I have hundreds of lyric symbols, and at a
rate of six per grace note I see a great advantage in Noel's method.
Further, I don't have to identify each grace note character in the lyrics
edit box (one character per note, I'd have to count, I think). With only two
primary symbols (open and closed hole) I could use copy & paste there to
some effect, but I still think it'd be much more difficult and prone to
error. Thanks, Noel.

John





On 5/3/05 9:03 PM, "John Bell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 4 May 2005, at 01:49, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
> 
>> John Roberts wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Unlike with percentage tool-reduced notes, lyrics to not shrink
>>> with grace notes,
>>> even with fixed size unchecked. Articulations do, expressions do,
>>> but lyrics
>>> don't. (At least not in the file I'm working on). So I thought I'd
>>> sound out
>>> the wisdom of the list.
>>> 
>>> 
>> OK, I think this is how I'd do it:  go to options > document
>> settings > notation options,  make a note of the figure in the
>> "grace note" box, and then change the value to 100.  Now, notate
>> your grace note, use the re-size tool to change the size to the
>> value you noted in the notation option box for the grace note, and
>> then apply the key to make the note you just entered and resized a
>> grace.
>> If I've reasoned it out correctly, what this should do, is give you
>> a regular note, which you manually resize, in the process resizing
>> the lyric and everything else associated with the note, and then
>> making it the reduces size note a grace note of 100 percent size,
>> which will give it all the other characteristics (such as not
>> adding a fraction of a beat) of a grace note.
> 
> That's most ingenious, but by my calculation very slightly more
> labour intensive than Christopher Smith's more prosaic suggestion of
> resizing the syllable in Edit Lyrics.
> 
> John
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