Well placed Neal.

But I know my eyes won't let me follow.

I just can't see it in a passage that mixes time sig.

So

4/4 5/4 3/4 6/4 3/2 7/4

Often times I find my 5/4 and 7/4 alternating like 3+2/5 then 2+3/5

Throwing a 3/2 into the mix (to me) indicates a sort of half time feel (that is ) three half note beats -- when what I may really want is a passage of three 2/4 measures.
I suppose one should break it up but there is a clutter issue.

What about 4+2/6 then 2+4/6

three bars of 4? Doesn't seem right to me.

Sometimes it seems to me that I should notate one way so as to show the performer exactly what I want and then once the piece has it's performance another simplier way.

Anyone ever read Paul Creston's  Rational Metric Notation?

He advocates replaces 6/8 with 6/12.


Jerry


On 30-Jun-05, at 2:09 AM, Neal Schermerhorn wrote:

I promised I would not respond. Oh well...

The difference between 6/4 and 3/2 is precisely the same difference between
6/8 and 3/4.

You can argue all night on what the difference is between using a quarter note and a half note as the beat results in, but what it all comes down to is that there are simple meters (3/4) and there are complex meters (6/8).

Simple meters are routinely counted with the note value that matches the bottom number as the beat. So, 2/2 means there are 2 beats and the half note gets one beat. 3/4 means there are 3 beats and the quarter note gets one
beat.

Compound meters are sometimes counted the same as simple (6/8 can be six
beats where the eighth note is one beat), but are very often counted in
threes, where the top number is three times the number of beats (6/3=2) and
the bottom number represents a third of the beat (three eighth notes =
dotted quarter).

6/4 is properly used for music felt in 2 groups of 3. 3/2 is properly used
for music felt in 3 groups of 2.

Basically, when the fraction represented by the time signature is reducable AND the top number is divisible by 3, you have a compound meter. (3/8 could be considered compound, though, as could 3/4, if they are felt in one.) But in cases where the fraction is not reducible, it's unlikely it's meant to be
felt with a subdivision of 3 to the regular beat. (Again, 3/4, 3/8 are
exceptions.)

NOW - 3/2 could be felt in "one" but who would do such a thing? 3/4 or 3/8 would more meaningfully carry the sense of "in one" to the musician. 3/2 is
almost always felt in 3.

Now, we do see hemiola incorporated into 3/2 so there are some 3/2 bars
which might feel as if they are in 2. If you want to choose between 3/2 and 6/4 and your music is at least some of the time in 3, use 3/2. But if it's
squarely in 2 groups of 3 throughout, 6/4 is correct.

Apologies, but this is all so obvious to me.

Neal Schermerhorn
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