On 06 Jul 2005, at 7:16 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
On 6 Jul 2005 at 14:30, Darcy James Argue wrote:
Well, I don't know how XP works so I can't comment on that end of it.
But on the Mac, there is no such thing as a "child" window.
Sure there is. Any document window spawned by Finale is a child of
the parent Finale window.
That's not how it works on Mac. There *is* no "parent" Finale window,
so there's no "spawning". When no Finale documents are open, there is
no Finale window either -- the application is still running, and you
can switch to Finale, but there's no window. When multiple Finale
documents are open, they are all part of the same hierarchy. There is
no way that one parts window can "belong" to a score window.
This lack of window hierarchy concerns me -- for instance, if you had
two different scores open simultaneously, it might be difficult to tell
which part window belonged to which score. Especially if you had, for
example, two different revisions of the same score open at the same
time.
Opening multiple document windows solves the problem, though. And
that's what I'm reading you as having said you don't like.
On reflection, I'm fine with doing it either way (as Sieblius does) --
so long as there is a way to switch between parts *without* spawning a
bunch of new windows. For my own work, I would find that UI much more
clear than having to deal with a mess of windows.
How are multiple windows on a single document implemented on the Mac?
You open a second copy of the document via the "Open" menu, and the
Finder labels the windows "Brilliant Concerto.mus:1" ; "Brilliant
Concerto.mus:2"; etc.
Whatever method is used for that would make perfect sense for part
view.
As long as you can do it both ways, I'm happy.
There is no "New Window" menu item on the Mac.
You can't view two parts of a Finale document simultaneously?
*BOGGLE*
No, you can, you just open a second copy of the same document. That's
something that always makes me uncomfortable, though -- I try to avoid
that if possible. (I have enough trouble with the File Overwrite bug
as it is!)
Tons of my editing work requires this! It's how I do my musicological
editing, where I make editorial suggestions to make, say, an
exposition and a recap have similar dynamics/articulations/bowings.
Whenever I have to do anything like this, I use a printout, marked up
as necessary. I hate proofing and editing on-screen.
In Sibelius -- at least on Mac -- you can't compare two parts
side-by-side. You can only have the score window plus one dynamic
part open at any one time.
That would seem to me to be a very severe limitation.
I was wrong -- there's a "open parts in new windows" option in the
preferences.
David, since you have a lot to say about this feature, I highly
recommend you download the Sibelius 4 demo and try it for yourself --
see how it's implemented, see what you like and don't like. That would
help us make better suggestions about how Finale could implement the
feature.
- Darcy
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