On 7 Jul 2005 at 23:36, Owain Sutton wrote:

> David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > I think the use of a note as denominator would eliminate all these
> > problems. 6/8 would become 2/Q., and would also allow one to notate
> > 6/E if one actually wanted it.
> 
> I would love this system...but....
> 
> > That makes far more sense than the absolutely idiotic 12/12.
> 
> How would you replace 2/10, 7/24 etc?

I don't know, since I have seen no satisfactory explanation of what 
the hell these mean.

I'm something of a Luddite in believing that things like 
Ferneyhough's Q=60.75 are completely idiotic. First off, nobody can 
tell without a point of comparison whether a performance is exactly 
at that fractional metronome marking, and secondly, no performers 
without a metronome could possibly match such a precise tempo.

I'd also argue that not even the best performers could maintain such 
a tempo, especially in ensemble performance. Playing with a 
metronomic pulse drains all the music out of a performance, so nobody 
could possibly maintain such a precisely defined tempo, so I see no 
point in writing it out.

This kind of thing is just complete gibberish, from my point of view, 
at least if the music is intended to be performed by human musicians.

I also think that all the discussions about meters that try to 
maintain precise relationships between one meter and another are also 
overly picky. While metric modulations can be a guide to 
understanding what is intended, I think it's the rare performer who 
ever manages precisely what is indicated.

Of course, I'm something of a heretic in the early music world for 
ignoring the relationships between meters there, too. I think it's 
better to take a precise relationship as a starting point, but then 
to adjust that for musical purposes.

Composers who want to impose non-musical, computer-style 
metronomically precise tempo flow on performers should be writing for 
computers instead of for human beings.

But I have no strong opinions on the subject.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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