--- Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Mark D. Lew asked:
> 
> > Does Sibelius have a good method of entry with the
> Qwerty keyboard?  If 
> > not, that would be a big negative for me.
> 
> Sibelius has always had an elegant set of  keyboard
> entry tools They appear 
> to have been the model for the ones introduced in
> Finale 2004.  After an 
> initial adjustment, I think you'll find them more
> versatile and more 
> flexible than Finale's.

Finale 2004 and 2005's Simple Entry were designed to
outperform Sibelius' similar entry system in many
ways. Sibelius still has some advantages, but it's not
a simple matter of stating that Sibelius' entry is
more flexible than Finale's. In many respects the
opposite is true.


> Highlight a measure or a beat by a mouse click (no
> speedy entry window is 
> needed), select a rhythm (it will stay elected until
> another selection is 
> made) type a pitch from the keyboard (or touch a
> midi key), and the note is 
> entered. You can navigate between notes with the
> left and right arrows.

Comparing Finale and Sibelius, choosing a duration in
Sibelius always prepares the next note's duration
whenever the entry caret is present (and this is
always present when you're entering new notes). Finale
does this as well, but offers the option of holding
the Alt key while pressing the duration to change the
last entered note's duration without first backing up
to it. Essentially, this makes it quicker in Finale to
correct mistakes, since you don't backtrack.

 
> While a note is highlighted, it can be moved up or
> down with the arrow keys, 
> displaced an octave (ctrl arrow up or down),
> re-pitched by re-entering the 
> keyboard pitch, added to with the top row number
> keys (3 adds a third up, 
> shift 3 a third down, 4 a fourth up, ect), and
> repeated by pressing R.

Finale has the same options except for the very handy
Repeat command. That's one that Finale should add in
the future. In Finale's favor is the ability to either
select the octave for the last entered pitch (as
Sibelius does) or select the octave for the coming
pitch. It is the same number of keystrokes either way,
but for myself and other people, it just feels better
to not have to enter the note in the wrong octave
first and then correct it.

This brings me to another point. When designing
Finale's entry system, MakeMusic considered the way
people enter certain notational elements by hand. Most
people write a notehead on the page before writing
other elements, such as articulations, augmentation
dots, and even accidentals. Sibelius asks that you
define these properties of a note before you enter the
note itself. I've talked to seasoned Sibelius veterans
who say this still causes them to make mistakes from
time to time. Finale on the other hand gives you the
option, but defaults the simplest keystrokes for these
elements to adding the elements after the basic note
has been entered. This requires the user to remember
fewer things and make fewer simultaneous decisions. It
may seem subtle, but it really does help people make
fewer mistakes. Try it - I think you'll curse less in
Finale's entry.

There's another major advantage to Finale that lies in
this ability to select elements before or after
entering a note. It's what is referred to as "Sticky"
in Finale. In Finale you can add elements to the last
entered note only, or you can lock on these elements
(such as tuplets, grace notes, augmentation dots,
articulations, and even accidentals) so that they are
attached to all notes you enter from that point until
you disable the element(s). Sibelius is one way or the
other. For example, you can not turn on a consecutive
tuplet feature in Sibelius. And articulations are
always sticky, meaning you will need to turn off the
articulation when you don't need it (not tough to do,
but an extra step). 
 
> Back space creates a rest from a note.
> Articulations, bowings, accidentals, 
> grace notes, tremolos, ect. can all be added to a
> highlighted note(s) with a 
> single touch to the ten key pad.

The best way to create a rest in Sibelius is usually
to hit the 0 key on the numpad. This enters a rest of
the current duration, and is one step instead of the
two that hitting backspace requires. I kind of get a
kick out of this shortcut, since it's new and was just
copied from Finale. Before this, the Space Bar did
this in Sibelius - not very handy for people using a
MIDI keyboard.

Sibelius prides itself on a feel of modelessness (even
though it's not modeless). The articulations in entry
are a good example of where this fails. If you need an
accent or a staccato, great - it's on the first
keypad. But if it's a fermata, you're going to go
hunting for it on a different keypad. Sibelius just
runs out of convenient shortcuts.

Finale doesn't fight its modal nature. You press the
asterisk key on the keypad after entering a note, then
press the metatool letter for the articulation. 2 keys
for any articulation. 2 keys for any expression. 2
keys for any key sig, time sig, or clef. You're going
to have to type the expression in with Sibelius, and
the keys, times, and clefs will require a dialog box
visit. 


Finale can't keep pace with Sibelius' selection in
entry. If I want to repeat a measure I've just entered
in Sibelius, it's ctrl+shift+a r. No tool switching,
no mouse grabbing. It's done. If I want to select a
few beats to copy, I hold shift and walk over the
music until I've got what I want. If I want it right
after the selected notes, I press r. Otherwise I use
the mouse or direction arrows to copy it. For Finale
users, I recommend that they pick up a mouse that has
a keypad built into it so that they have fast access
to copy and paste, and then program a shortcut to get
back to Simple. It's not as fast as Sibelius
selection, but it shortens the gap.

I'm faster with entry in Finale. I learned Sibelius
entry first and got comfortable and quick with it. But
I just make more mistakes with it because of some of
the things I mentioned above. I've also gotten fast
enough at accessing selection in Finale to negate this
disadvantage. And the type of music I enter takes
advantage of enough of the unique Finale strengths I
mentioned above to make it faster for me to get my
work done in Finale.

Tyler

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