On 17 Aug 2005 at 15:31, Darcy James Argue wrote:

> On 17 Aug 2005, at 2:31 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:
> 
> > On 17 Aug 2005 at 13:53, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> >
> >> The whole point is that after years of being
> >> shackled by Motorola's and IBM's disappointing production, Apple
> >> had little choice but to go with x86 processors or continue to be
> >> left behind (especially w/r/t portables).
> >
> > I thought that reason for the switch had been shown to be bogus,
> > just an excuse to mask their real reasons for the switch, which
> > remain obscure?
> 
> Not at all.  IBM has denied it, of course, but since both Intel's and 
> IBM's long-term roadmaps are secret, we have no way of knowing if the 
> Apple line about long-term power-per-watt with Intel vs. IBM is 
> correct.  Nonetheless, it's certainly true *today* -- Intel has 
> powerful, low-power notebook processors and IBM doesn't.  That's 
> reason enough for switching.

Except that IBM has made announcements of other chips that could do 
the job if Apple wanted to use them. It's clearly *not* an IBM 
technology problem, despite what Apple may be claiming.

> It's also true that the G5 line has been *very* disappointing for 
> Apple.  Steve Jobs promised 3.0 GHz G5's within a year of their 
> unveiling -- IBM didn't deliver.  We were supposed to have G5 
> PowerBooks by now -- IBM didn't deliver.  IBM's defense basically 
> amounts to -- "Well, we *could* have met Apple's demands.  We just 
> didn't want to, because Steve Jobs is such a prima donna, so we 
> ignored him and focused on other things."

That's not at all what I heard. The excuse given was that IBM's price 
to produce chips with the performance Apple wanted was too high.

> Regardless of whether that's true, there's clearly a lot of bad blood 
> between the companies, and Apple is such a tiny part of IBM's 
> business that it was always going to be difficult for Apple to get 
> IBM to devote resources to developing and manufacturing the G5 they 
> might otherwise devote to, say, their XBox and Playstation chips.  Of 
> course, Apple will be a tiny part of Intel's business too, but at 
> least Intel's primary business is making desktop and notebook PC 
> processors.

Have you read Robert Cringely's articles on this subject? See 
especially:

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20050714.html

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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