Taking my own advice, I just looked in the manual that came with Fin2006a, and under What's New there is mention of the Items to Copy dialog box, and it indicates that it comes up when a person does the ctrl-shift-click. No mention of the possibility of just ctrl-click to bypass that dialog.

Then I looked in the Index, and went to where Copy begins in the manual (p.3-22), and again, it mentions the Items to Copy dialog box and it says that it comes when ctrl-shift-click is used. At the bottom of page 3-23 it says "3. Click and drag the source music so that it’s superimposed on the first target measure. If the first target measure is not on-screen, instead of dragging, do the following: With the source region selected, scroll until you see the desired target region. Then, while pressing ctrl and
shift together, click the first target measure."

On page 27-1, in the Mass-Edit chapter, the following appears: "Ctrl-click an unselected region to copy or move the selected music—no matter where it is in the score—to the point you clicked. You specify which musical elements you want to move, as well as how you want them copied, from the Mass Edit Menu before you click (Mass Edit
Menu > Items to Copy)."

The top of the next page indicates that crtl-shift-click does bring up the Items to Copy dialog. Nowhere does it say anything to the effect of "users of previous versions of Finale will notice a change in this procedure. What used to be ctrl-shift-click is now ctrl-click."

My big question/complaint is: why isn't any reference to the appropriate mass-edit copying procedure (pages 27-1 and 27-2) made in the Index? If I hadn't decided to see what was mentioned in the Mass-Edit chapter I'd never have found anything which comes close to answering my original question. In the Index under Mass Edit absolutely NO mention is made to the entries which were pertinent to my question.

Does this mean that anytime I look anything up in the index, I have to assume that the manual isn't fully indexed and I will need to read the whole darn thing to be sure any pertinent information isn't missed?

I don't really expect an answer to these imponderables, but it's no wonder Finale continues to have its reputation for a steep learning curve.

Maybe with some of the last quarter's jump in corporate profits, most of which admittedly came from Finale upgrade purchases, MakeMusic could hire someone who actually knows how to index a user's manual. This wouldn't even have to be a programmer - just someone who can READ THE MANUAL and make notes about where concepts and terms are mentioned. Don't both Word and WordPerfect offer this capability, with the user choosing if any entry is included in or omitted from the index?

Well, one can dream, can't one?

David H. Bailey






dhbailey wrote:
Thank you -- that solved it! Guess it's time for me to read the manual again, huh?

Thanks!
David



Michael Cook wrote:

On Mac it works like this in F2006: use option-shift-click to bring up the dialog "items to copy" and option-click to copy without this dialog appearing. I expect the Windows version is similar: try ctrl-click instead of ctrl-shift-click.

Michael Cook

On 23 Nov 2005, at 12:25, dhbailey wrote:

dhbailey wrote:

I'm starting to work with WinFin2006a, and have these questions:
1) I recall people complaining about the ctrl-shift-click method of copying, where a dialogue asking what we want copied comes up each time I try to ctrl-shift-click to copy a measure. This requires 2 clicks instead of the former behavior requiring only 1 click. Has there been any solution to this stupid behavior? When I click-drag I get no such dialog, and in previous versions I never got this additional dialog. If there is any way to turn this behavior off, could someone remind me of it please?



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