Yes, two countries divided by a common language.
"I am chided, correctly, by an American colleague for my use of the
word tiddly, which in England can mean small but in America has only
one meaning - blind drunk or worse. My apologies if I have caused
any offense. I will be more careful in future- especially if I have
to write about erasers or cigarettes!" [GB Shaw]
I understood "noodling" to refer to a kind of mindless jazz
improvisation (not something string players are known for), but next
time we have some American string players here I'll ask them to
noodle and see what happens.
Regarding your question about augmented 2nds etc: in a passage of
fingered tremolos, if some span only a 2nd, they would normally all
be written as tremolos, although of course both the execution and
effect would be identical to trills.
Regards
John
On 19 Feb 2006, at 02:25, John Howell wrote:
Well, I didn't recognize the term, so I guess I've never heard it
used for this particular ornament. My father called it "noodling,"
but that includes both measured and unmeasured alternation. I have
played it, as you say, countless times, know how to read the
notation, know how to write the notation, and can even accept the
term readily because there's a certain internal logic to it, but to
THIS string player a tremolo is done with the bow and what the left
hand is doing is a trill, albeit one of a larger interval than a
major 2nd. I wonder whether a trill of an augmented 2nd would be
called a trill while one of a minor third (same interval) would be
called a tremolo under this terminology?
Could this be a European vs. U.S. difference in terms? Like the
use of "measure" or "bar," which are synonyms on this side of the
pond while I've seen Brits argue that there are two different
meanings?
John
At 6:38 PM -0500 2/18/06, Darcy James Argue wrote:
John,
You've seriously never heard of a "fingered tremolo" before? It's
a tremolo of rapidly alternating pitches played on a single
string, without rapid changes of bow direction -- in other words,
it's exactly like a trill, but with a larger interval.
I'm sure you've *played* them countless times before, so what do
you call them?
- Darcy
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On 18 Feb 2006, at 4:52 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 3:03 AM +0000 2/18/06, John Bell wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the French terminology is for finger
tremolo in string instruments?
Thanks
John
Hi, John. Could you explain the English meaning you understand?
What, in other words, is a "finger tremolo"? It isn't a term
this string player is at all familiar with. Vibrato? Bow
pulsation? All are possible, as is a true tremolo (unmeasured
continuously alternating bow strokes).
John
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