I don't know of much RECENT music written for alto-tenor-bass orchestra
sections, though that was overwhelmingly the case from Haydn up to
Tchakovsky or so. Tchaik, for example, is almost always played on tenor
trombone because of the range, though it is written mostly in alto
clef.
I think we agreed that what was in the score does not represent what
the players see (one of the few exceptions to the "score matches parts
in all ways" rule.) Through the 19th century, alto-tenor-bass
instruments AND clefs on the parts were the norm, and should be
reproduced that way in authentic editions.
A curious effect happened for first part of the 20th century in Russian
music. Shostakovich and his contemporaries were told by some teacher
that tenor trombone parts were always written in alto clef and this
misinformation was propagated from mentor to student, so for fifty
years or so it was alto clef for first AND second trombone parts, and
bass clef for third trombone. No tenor clef. Since this was obviously
an error, I don't think it would be wrong to use tenor or bass clef for
new editions of these composers' works.
Christopher
On Jun 20, 2006, at 6:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recent scores often put 1st and 2nd on one stave in tenor, but parts
are alto, tenor, bass, respectively.
RBH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 8:45
Subject: [Finale] Re: trombone clefs
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> Every time I've played the Schumann or Schubert symphonies, the
> parts were
> 1st-Alto Clef, 2nd-Tenor Clef, and 3rd-Bass Clef. The copies I
> have at home of
> these parts are all like that. The score might lump the first 2
> parts in 1 clef
> for space-saving or to suggest some kind of group-treatment, but
> that's just
> my speculation.
>
> -Steve S
> NYC
>
> In a message dated 6/19/06 1:01:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> << OK, I'll bite. 19th-c. orchl. piece. Only the
> score survives, in
> copyist's hand. Trombones (alto, tenor, bass) on two staves: A
> and T
> on one, in the alto clef, and bass on the other, in bass clef.
> When I
> extract the parts, should the tenor trombone part be:
> 1) in the alto clef, because that's what it is in the score.
> 2) in the tenor clef, because that's the norm for
> 19th-c. tenor
> trombone parts.
> 3) in bass clef, because that's what's usual today.
> NOTE: I am trying to be "authentic" here, so, e.g., the
> clarinets are
> getting parts for cl. in C, as per the score. >>
>
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