OK, the ornament table in New Grove doesn't show anything exactly like this. There are single strokes, there are double strokes through the note stem or above or below the note, and there are double strokes going in various directions, some of them with additional doohickies added. Nor have I ever seen this sign used. (Two strokes through the stem typically indicates a slide in the English virginalist repertoire, or so said the editor of "Fitzwilliam," but it's always a little chancy to apply keyboard ornamental signs to other instruments.)

Seeing the context, my first instinct would be to play a slide. That is, in the first example (and assuming this is treble clef), start on an F on the beat, play F, G very quickly, and end on the A. Two things lead me in that direction. First, in all 4 examples, the strokes appear to be placed (or can be interpreted to be placed) a third below the half note. Second, in all 4 examples, that would duplicate the interval of the two 8th notes. The Afekt would be to emphasize, with the ornament, the second beat of each measure.

The other suggestions that it could indicate an appoggiatura (a lower one in this case), a mordent, or a trill of some kind, are also quite possible. It is the context that suggests the solution I favor.

What you call a "fluttering" effect is more likely a "flatement," an ornament unique to woodwind instruments with open holes, played as a sort of finger vibrato on the lowest open holes without actually closing that hole. (A similar effect, the "pincée," is possible on fretted or unfretted strings instruments, although in that case the pitch variation is up rather than down.) I've never seen any indication that an actual flutter-tongue effect would have been used in the baroque, although I wouldn't rule anything out. There are signs for various kinds of tremolo on various instruments.

If my guess about the slide is correct, it can be indicated with the notation I suggested above, probably two 32nd notes followed by a dotted 8th tied to a quarter. That would keep a naive player from playing the grace notes ahead of the beat. If not a slide, a more standard sign should be used. If there is no decision, yes, I would leave it as it is and thus up to the performer. The "flatement" is not possible on most modern woodwinds. If you honestly feel it's a flutter tongue, use a trill extension to indicate the length and annotate it "flutter tongue" the first time and just "flutter" after that.

John


At 11:46 AM -0400 8/9/06, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Christoph Graupner.
Darmstadt Germany from about 1709 to 1760.

On 8/9/06, Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 09.08.2006 Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
 I placed a sample at
 http://www.bytenet.net/kpclow/finale/symbol.jpg

It would also help to know the composer, or at least the country and
year. There was no notation standard during that time.

Johannes
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