Curt,

Welcome to the list, and I've enjoyed playing some of your charts in big bands (if you are indeed THAT Curt Berg!)

I've run into corruption from time to time in Finale files, and there isn't much to be done to prevent it, other than running Data Check when a file starts acting wonky (which only helps sometimes.)

It's computer thing, not necessarily Finale, and who knows what causes it - gamma radiation, Brownian motion, dust, radical gluon particles, spilling salt and forgetting to spit over your left shoulder, etc. You were lucky to be able to identify the culprit and replace it. Sometimes I've had measures that would REFUSE to space properly, or font items that would not appear properly where they had before, or measures that simply did not appear (either white space or the measure was just not there, bar 12 went into bar 14 without any fuss) and emptying the measure and re-entering everything didn't help, nor did copying the contents to a new file, which is my usual corruption last resort.

I have noticed that files from previous versions of Finale are particularly susceptible to corruption, from the mild to the serious, but this may just be because the file has more of a chance to become corrupted with age.

Sorry I couldn't help more.

Christopher




On Aug 21, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Curt Berg wrote:

Hi all,

    This is my first submission to this list, and it should be fairly self-explanatory if you start at the bottom and work up. The music example isn’t attached. Has anyone here had problems with cut and paste that were caused by a particular text _expression_? I got no satisfactory explanation from Phil Holst (or John Paulson), but I’ll bet one of you have run into this before. Thanks for your help.

Curt Berg
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----- Forwarded Message
From: Curt Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:53:42 -0700
To: "Holst, Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Paulson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cut and paste problem

Hi Philip (& John),

    Thanks for your quick attention to my problem. I made the text _expression_ swap and got the results that you predicted. I think your imaginations can pretty well save me the trouble of describing the ramifications of this sort of problem. Somehow Finale users have to know why this can happen in the 1st place and how to avoid it. (It would be better if the issue would never arise again!) I have had to replicate difficult harp passages with various smart shapes that other orchestrators have sent me because of this problem, and I can’t recall whether there were staff expressions attached to them. Have you tried bringing up the passage that I sent you in F. 2007 to see if the problem is fixed? I know I’ll have to do jobs in F. 2006 for a couple more years and I hope that there can be a “patch” or upgrade that will correct the problem. It’s a lot more essential for us copyists to have a reliable cut and paste function than any of the fancy midi playback improvements that occupy lots of your staff time. If you can discover what caused the “soli” _expression_ to prevent copying, I’d sure like to hear about it.

Best,

Curt





on 8/21/06 8:58 AM, Holst, Phil at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Curt,
 
John Paulson asked me to get in touch with you about the problems you are seeing with Cut and Paste.
In the example you submitted, the problem appears to be caused by the “soli” _expression_. For some reason that _expression_ is not letting the program copy anything after the note it is attached to. In my experimenting, I created a new _expression_ from scratch. This new _expression_ did allow the notes to copy correctly from file to file.
I am going to suggest creating a new Soli _expression_ from scratch in the _expression_ selection window. Do not duplicate, as that will just copy over whatever is wrong with this one.
Then go to your old one. Delete it.
It will ask you if you want to replace it with an existing _expression_. Select your new Soli and click ok.
 
Now all of your old Soli expressions will be replaced with the new one, and their measures should copy.
 
Let me know if you have any other questions about this.
Philip Holst
Customer Support Team Leader
MakeMusic, Inc.
7615 Golden Triangle Drive, Suite M
 Eden Prairie, MN 55344-3848


-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Berg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday,  August 18, 2006 11:53  AM
To: Paulson, John
Subject: Cut and paste problem
 
Hi John,
 
    Having not pestered you for about a year, I figured it was time to send you a sample of one of the things I've often encountered on F. 2006. I often copy and paste parts from scores into part templates, and many times Finale has selectively copied those parts, leaving out important stuff. For some reason, it seems to occur on many harp parts. Here's today's example: It's a tenor sax part (bar 105) in which the fix had to be done by note entry because Finale wouldn't copy and paste after repeated attempts. I have attached a score (unformatted) and the tenor part. This happened on the bone part also, in the same bar. There may be some font issues in reading the music, since I'm using Bill Duncan fonts, but this problem has occurred with the standard fonts too.
 
    Please forward this to someone who can deal with it, and I'd like to know the results. This sort of thing is maddening for those of us who make our living using your product.
 
Best regards,
 
Curt Berg



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