At 8:37 AM -0500 1/15/07, dhbailey wrote:
Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 15.01.2007 dhbailey wrote:
Taxes we have no choice on paying (well we actually do have a choice but most of us don't want to spend time in prison), and we don't all get equal access to the benefits, whereas directly subsidizing something through direct payment for it is a personal choice and is a payment which is not forced on the entire population.

I have never heard of a "Berlin Philharmonic Charge" or something similar, so I don't understand how the sentence "direct subsidies like in Europe" could make any sense. The big orchestras in Germany may get a lot of subsidies compared to the US, but it is still tax, and nothing else.

Johannes

Perhaps John was talking about direct subsidies as in corporate grants -- major American orchestras and opera companies survive on corporate grants as well as private donations as well as government grants (both state and national). But there is still a hefty admission price charged at the door so nobody looks on a major American orchestra concert in the concert hall as being free.

I also misunderstood the wording being used. (Sorry; I just seem to be on a kick lately of wanting to clean up the semantics of our discussions. Silly me!!)

1. The arts cost money, unless you are talking about community music, community theater etc. where everyone volunteers their time and talents and they do it for enjoyment. I'm involved in three such organizations in which no one gets paid, a Community Band and Community String Orchestra that do not charge admission but ask for donations, and a Community Summer Musical production, which does charge admission because the expenses are substantial.

2. There are three current sources of support for the arts: (a) Patron subsidy (admission charges or season ticket subscriptions), which works just fine for popular entertainment; (b) government subsidy, which is indeed tax moneys but may be administered through enabling organizations (i.e. state or local arts councils) or may be directly subsidized as cultural entitlements (museums, art museums, and traditionally in Europe--but NOT in the U.S.--symphonies and opera companies), but I'm sure those also have their own gatekeepers; and (c) corporate grants, which is indeed advertising but is also included in the cost of doing business as well as being a good community partner, whether it is sponsorship of athletic events (the largest target, obviously) or of cultural events or institutions (which get a pretty small piece of the pie).

3. We tend to forget that quite a lot of community cultural and artistic activities are generated not by professional companies but by educational institutions. In fact that is one of the stated goals of our Music Department Mission Statement, since we are located far from the large cities which offer continuous professional arts events. The same is true, of course, of athletics. Pinning down the funding streams and comparing public and private schools, those charging tuition and those not, is probably more complex than one might want to tackle without a background in advanced statistics and accounting!!

4. It's been a long time since I did green-sheet gigs, but isn't there a requirement to qualify for those union-subsidized Trust Fund gigs that performances be free to the approved audience? I know there was a requirement for matching funds by the sponsor, and I know that performances didn't necessarily have to be open to the public. (We did most of ours in schools.)

5.  Don't forget that no generalization is ever true ... including this one!

And then there is another way of viewing things: the military bands don't get specific subsidies to exist, they're part of the overall military budget and the members receive the same military pay as everybody else at the same pay grade, regardless of their job (musician, motor pool, telecommunications, whatever).

An excellent point, David, and of course a very tiny, tiny part of the overall military budget. Of course the elite bands may be authorized to offer other incentives. When my group enlisted in 1957 we enlisted as Airmen Basic (pay grade E1, otherwise known as "slave wages"), but were promoted regularly after the minimum required waits, and 4 years later we "graduated" as Technical Sergeants (E5). At other times I understand that those destined for the elite bands may have been promised promotion as soon as they reported for duty, or even exempted from basic training. On the other hand we were on call 24/7, and in the USAF band they meant exactly that!! Sometimes we got back from one tour just long enough to grab clean underwear and head back to Base Operations for the next!

John


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