yes, but i'm talking about performance royalties. that is mechanical (distribution) rights. although of course in some languages royalties means essentially rights without specifications as to WHAT rights and would have to be clarified in context.

Ah, but your question spoke to late 18th, early 19th century practices. The terms you're now using are all 20th century.

quite possibly, yes probably; i meant i am interested in the payments to composers for the performance of their works. any reference to the topic would be appreciated, but based on literature around the varying topics of patronage and development of the public concert it would seem that this practice - paying composers for individual performances of individual works - would have only begun in the time of mozart through beethoven because of changing modes of social structures and the shift from direct to indirect patronage to public concerts. in most cases in this transition period (and later to some extent) the payments to the composer (the more significant ones anyways) would have come directly from the "extended royalty", the ennobled class until the development of the "true" public concert in the early-mid 1800s. i read that the first concert hall explicitly built for music was 1830 in vienna...

[...] And of course those terms would have absolutely nothing to do with Royalty.

that's what confuses me, and the OED hasn't really shed any light on the situation.

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