John Howell wrote:
At 8:18 AM -0800 7/5/07, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
http://www.soundonsound.com/ has a whole page about Sibelius 5. I have YET to see them mention Finale 2008.

dhbailey wrote:
There was a short blurb in PCWorld (at least the on-line edition) about the release of Sibelius 5, which starts off by calling Sibelius the world's best selling notation software.

I didn't catch this when I read David's original post, but look carefully at the wording. It does not say the "world's best software," but the "world's best selling software." Big difference. Does anyone happen to have the figures to back that up or refute it?

No figures cited, just the brag. Of course, Finale makes the same claim, so who's to know where the truth lies?

And while there is a big difference in the meaning of the statements, the results for newbies is often the same: They buy the best, whether it's just best-selling or is truly recognized as the best product. Take the iPod -- it's not the world's best mp3 player, but it certainly is one that many people love to buy. Create the hype and it doesn't matter what the quality is -- McDonald-ization is a fact of economic survival in the marketplace. Demand is more important than quality.


I'm not sure whether MM is making any attempt to be friendly to the education market, but I do know that when our department was forced to switch from Finale to Sibelius because MM completely ignored the needs of Mac OS X customers, that represented a switch of perhaps 40-50 sales per year, every year from now on, plus site licenses for faculty members, just because of poor planning. And our students are actually USING Sibelius, rather than swearing at Finale.

MakeMusic is attempting to be friendly to the educational marketplace. I just think they have lost the ability to succeed at being friendly to it.

Why Sibelius wins so many school site-license contracts and Finale doesn't is something that MakeMusic needs to address. It's not impossible, it just seems that MakeMusic has no clue what it should be doing. It's too caught up in the SmartMusic Accompaniment System to focus the resources it needs to on the Finale marketplace.

For the vast majority of the notation software marketplace, which is definitely NOT professional engravers, very few people venture far beyond the defaults, nor do they reach into the really tricky aspects of notation. And for those people, Sibelius right out of the box is definitely a better product than Finale right out of the box. For college students writing harmony exercises or orchestrating 4-part chorales or putting down themes for a composition course, the ability to reset the staff thicknesses or move a single note's dot .1mm left/right/up/down is simply not important. And for the folks writing traditional band/orchestra works using traditional harmonic structures, they don't care one bit about cross-staff notation.



As a player, I was sightreading July 4th music yesterday, and found it much easier to read parts done using Sibelius' default settings than to read parts done in Finale, and often shrunk too much to fit the page just because it's so easy to do so. I was actually surprised to find this true, since I hadn't expected it.

Sibelius does produce a great looking page with default settings. Comparing it to someone's altered Finale page, however, isn't really a fair comparison, because someone could just as easily have done the same in Sibelius. That they didn't feel they needed to says more than the actual comparison between the two different outputs.

This is where Finale needs to work harder -- the program should be able to be installed, a file begun and worked on to conclusion and printed out with no adjustment to the defaults and it should look as elegant as a Sibelius file worked on the same way. And there's reason that Finale can't do it, other than the fact that nobody at MakeMusic has sat down and designed a maestro-default.ftm file which emulates in every detail what Sibelius' default file does.

There's no way that a work created in Finale using the default template and with no percentage reduction either on staves or systems or whole pages looks anything other than amateurish. They need to address that.


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