I was never aware of such 80's belief. Up until this recent scholarship, all I ever "knew" was that a trio of trombones: alto in Eb, tenor in Bb and bass in F were the norm in Germany in the 1700s and early 1800s until replaced by two tenors and a Bb/F bass in the mid 1800s, more or less.

The idea of three tenors playing Mozart or Schubert choral parts is still hard for me to imagine, and I am not sure I accept that as a given in choral works for the alto part, if that is what Weiner is claiming. Shifrin doesn't seem to allow as much use of tenor on the first part for these works.

RBH


Andrew Stiller wrote:

On Jul 4, 2007, at 10:49 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:

Andrew Stiller, a few weeks back I said some recent scholarship was heading toward alto, tenor and bass trombones all being in Bb in the 18th and 19th centuries. I intended to send you some links at the time but did not. Here are some...


Thanks very much for that. It strikes me as ironic that conventional wisdom on this issue seems to have come full circle in the last twenty years. Back in the '80s (and earlier) everybody believed that the designations alto, tenor, and bass in 19th c. trombone parts represented merely a vestige of earlier practice, and that in fact all three parts were played on the tenor. This latest research seems to bring us *almost* right back around to that same idea.

Andrew Stiller
Kallisti Music Press
http://www.kallistimusic.com/

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