Man-o-man! This has been a week of nostalgia and you guys aren't helping. The comment about when Finale appeared made me go back and figure out just when did Finale start ,,, and I must be getting old.

1989 (nearing 20 years of Finale use - I am getting old), I got the first version at the same time as I upgraded from an Apple IIc (128 K ram and only floppy disks for storage) to a brand new Mac II with a full 8 MB of ram and a 40 MB of hard disk. I can also remember the price tag for the whole package Mac-Finale at over 10 grand (that's Canadian dollars). Imagine what a great system you'd get today for that kind of dough.

Part of the nostalgia came about when I found this link to pictures of the evolution of Apple computers. <http://tofslie.com/work/ apple_evolution.jpg>

Ah ! the good old days.... when articulations weren't fixed on the notes and had to be re-adjusted manually by hand when you transposed a part. Slurs had to be done that way too (I hated doing horn parts).

'nuff said, I'm just glad to be around today with this level of computing power and software technology.

Oh by the way, I've been working with Sibelius for the last 9 months or so. I've not switched but felt I needed to be up on both platforms.

Both programs have there nice sides and their not so great things about them. It comes down to how comfortable you feel using them. I know that for myself, when I'm doing a "contemporary music" project I'll definitely be using Finale. Might be a question of my knowledge of the program. But there's also the ease to manipulate things manually which Sibelius is less flexible for me. I always seem to have to grab at things a couple of times before it responds whereas with Finale, using a tool presents one with boxes which are easily chosen and handled.

On the other side, I like the way certain things are done in Sib. for instance adding notes to a chord is a snap by just touching a number to add that to the chord (3 adds a third - 5 adds a fifth). Also the automatic adjustments made in the score when you move a staff up or down is great. But I find this feature less workable when I'm doing parts. For more traditional notation projects, I can see myself choosing to use Sibelius more and more.

Just hope both programs keep up the healthy competition which, in the long run helps us get better software to work with.

Bernard Savoie



On Jul 19, 2007, at 13:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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On 19 Jul 2007 at 15:23, shirling & neueweise wrote:


this may have changed since the relation went sour, but stocki's
copyist, james ingram from 1974-2000 used finale for note entry and
freehand and some homebaked programmes to make the finale results
pretty. ...

Finale was available in 1974?

ok so it wasn't explicit in my message,

It was perfectly clear from what you wrote -- James Ingram was his
copyist from 1974-2000, and while he was his copyist he did use
Finale after it came out.

It's only churlishness to pretend it's not clear.

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David W. Fenton                    http://dfenton.com
David Fenton Associates       http://dfenton.com/DFA/


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