Firat, I agree with nearly everything you three are saying. But this conversation reminds me of a group discussion I was a part of , some years back, one in which a lady older than I was wistfully saying that the last lighthouse on some island somewhere had closed, and it was a shame, etc. etc., and everyone was agreeing with her that all the old things were going away and all the new things were no good, etc. etc. Finally I felt forced to interject that probably the reason the lighthouses were closing was that that there were now better ways to keep ships from crashing onto the shore, and that most of the time the reason new technology replaced old technology is that it is actually better.

Yes, Sousa was right:
"These talking machines are going to ruin the artistic development of music in this country. When I was a boy...in front of every house in the summer evenings, you would find young people together singing the songs of the day or old songs. Today you hear these infernal machines going night and day. We will not have a vocal cord left. The vocal cord will be eliminated by a process of evolution, as was the tail of man when he came from the ape."


Recordings have devalued and replaced live music to a degree even he could never have imagined - but the gain has been tremendous. And the new technology, at which we can share rare recordings by MP3 around the world in seconds - is fantastic.


And as far as the new technology for composers - it has freed me, who is both a terrible pianist and could never get an ink pen to work worth a darn. Back when I had to copy stuff out by hand I got a fraction of the music written that I do now, and it wasn't played as much, and the music wasn't as good. (I love the ability to play it back.) And I still keep sketches, some in pencil and some on the computer, if anybody but myself ever wants to look at them.


(John, there _are_ available copies of the different MS of books of the Bible, BTW. And many good translations will have good notes of the significant differences, also, but that is another subject, as you say. And all of the apocryphal books are out there, also. It's not nearly as sinister as you are making it out to be. Go to a good seminary library.)


Raymond Horton


John Howell wrote:
At 7:00 PM -0500 3/6/08, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Mar 6, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:

Some even suggest that the concept of the album is pretty much dead.


Oh, I forgot to add:

In the case of jazz albums, some of the most accurate and well-written jazz scholarship appears (appeared?) on album covers. Reducing these albums to collections of mp3's reduces their value considerably for the usual well-informed jazz listener who considers the reading almost as important as the listening! Personnel lists, dates, producer notes, technical notes; all these are invaluable information that is largely lost to the mp3 generation.

Yes, and literary scholarship is changing as well, as authors adopt word processing rather than making longhand drafts, and earlier drafts are trashed or overwritten. Same thing with composers, at least those who now work directly to their computers. The times, they are a-changin', and these are minor adjustments that go along with those changes (although they might not seem so minor to specialists!).

Case in point. I just did a program of music from the Roman de Fauvel of 1316. That was a bitterly satirical poem first written in about 1310. It survives in 12 copies, each hand-written of course, and each having differences from the others, some minor, others including entire new sections. But the single manuscript from 1316 is unique in also containing over 120 musical examples, carefully chosen to comment on and amplify the story line. The invention of printing started us on the road to standardization, and mass production technology took us further along that long road.

Don't even get me started about all the varying versions of the books of the Bible, from which the present "approved" books were selected by a committee in the 4th century, and even then the Hebrew, Catholic, and Protestant versions have significant differences.

John


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