Isn’t Bratsche Italian also, just in a Germanized spelling? The full Italian term is Viola da Braccio as contrasted to Viola da Gamba (arm versus leg).
Why not go with the Swedes: altfiol? A month ago I bought myself a bratsch (the Danish spelling) just for the fun of it. My repertory is very small, but then it is largely out of tune. Klaus in DK --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Kurt Gnos <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Kurt Gnos <[email protected]> > Subject: AW: [Finale] TAN: Is "Bratschen" Obsolete? > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 12:54 AM > Bratsche, that is...;-) Bratche is an > "americanism"...;-) as is "Herr > Docktor" (correct: Herr Doktor) > > "Bratsche" in german is just a synonym for "viola" which is > italian, > actually. It is still in use, despite of all the > "Bratschen-Witze" (viola > jokes) that are around. I read a lot of American > literature, and quite a lot > of "german" that is misspelled (missspelled?) (I don't > know, but this would > be using the "new german orthographic rules"...;-))) Never > mind... > > Just my 2 cent(imes) > > Kurt > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > Im Auftrag von > Florence + Michael > Gesendet: Freitag, 18. Dezember 2009 00:39 > An: [email protected] > Betreff: Re: [Finale] TAN: Is "Bratschen" Obsolete? > > On 16 Dec 2009, at 17:36, John Howell wrote: > > > At 5:56 PM -0800 12/15/09, Ryan wrote: > >> Is the term "Bratschen" for violas obsolete in > German? Would it be > >> better to > >> use "Violen"? > > > > If you like, I could ask on the OrchestraList. > Or the ViolaList. > > I'm certainly not aware of any change from the > traditional > > terminology, which is embedded in every > German-published score I've > > ever seen, but there's no reason why I would be. > > > > I would think that there might be confusion between > the term for > > alto-tenor violin and that for viola da gamba if that > change were > > made, but then there's already confusion with the term > viol in > > English, which mean viola da gamba but could be taken > to mean bass > > viol (i.e. string bass or double bass or bass > violin). > > There's no confusion and I have seen "Violen" or "Viola" in > many > German scores. If you look at lists of musicians on web > pages of > German orchestras you'll see both "Bratsche" and "Viola" > being used > (I just checked Mannheim, where I work, and SWR > Baden-Baden, who both > use "Viola", and the Berliner Philharmoniker, who use > "Bratche"). > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
